if I go from one image to the next in the library or development module they often are not sharp unless I zoom in and out. It does not happen with every image but with a lot of them.
Funny enough the problem does not occur if I scroll through my images on LR 4 so it definitely has to do with the Classic CC version.
I am using MAC OS High Sierra version 10.13.4
Please help
Funny enough the problem does not occur if I scroll through my images on LR 4 so it definitely has to do with the Classic CC version.
I am using MAC OS High Sierra version 10.13.4
Please help
Posted 12 months ago
Simon Chen, Principal Computer Scientist
Johan Elzenga, Champion
This is a known bug and has been reported to Adobe, but it has not been dealt with yet. Indeed super annoying. What works is to zoom in to 1:1 and then zoom out again.
this is exactly what I tried to describe when I said I have to zoom in and out (1:1) to get images sharp
very annoying workaround though.
Simon Chen, Principal Computer Scientist
Ok. What is the version of LrClassic that you are running?
Do you see any render difference by toggling the details panel on or off? When Lr renders the image at less than full resolution (1:1), the rendering of the Details panel settings including sharpening would be an approximation. Can you share a copy of such photos plus the settings online?
Do you see any render difference by toggling the details panel on or off? When Lr renders the image at less than full resolution (1:1), the rendering of the Details panel settings including sharpening would be an approximation. Can you share a copy of such photos plus the settings online?
Johan Elzenga, Champion
Simon,
I'll give you a code number: LRD-4197639
I'll give you a code number: LRD-4197639
Johan Elzenga, Champion
Simon,
I am running Lightroom Classic-Version: 7.4 [ 1176617 ]Lizenz: Creative Cloud
No render difference when toggling the details panel on and off
I am enclosing 2 png files. original from the library which is not sharp and a virtual copy which I zoomed in and out to 1:1 after which it turned sharp.
Which settings do you want me to transmit ?
I am running Lightroom Classic-Version: 7.4 [ 1176617 ]Lizenz: Creative Cloud
No render difference when toggling the details panel on and off
I am enclosing 2 png files. original from the library which is not sharp and a virtual copy which I zoomed in and out to 1:1 after which it turned sharp.
Which settings do you want me to transmit ?
Simon,
I have not heard from you since my last reply a week ago. Kindly advise the present status.
best regards
I have not heard from you since my last reply a week ago. Kindly advise the present status.
best regards
Simon Chen, Principal Computer Scientist
Sorry I took a day off last Friday and lost track of this thread. Are these preview discrepency shown in the library module or the develop module? I can sort of envision it could happen in the library module. Essentially when in the library module, for performance reasons, Lightroom would only render necessary sized preview that fulfills the windows image drawing request. If the standard preview size (Lightroom>Catalog Settings>File Handling>Standard Preview Size) meet the image display needs, it would not try to render the 1:1 preview instead. This depends on factors such as this standard preview size settings, your negative size and the image display size. The fact that you zoom to 1:1 and it becomes sharper is because when zooming to 1:1, Lightroom forces the rendering of the 1:1 previews.
Some suggestions:
1. What is your current standard preview size settings? Try to increase it.
2. Build the 1:1 previews ahead of file via Library>Previews>Build 1:1 Previews.
3. Adjust your display resolution.
Johan's reports seem to center around switching from the develop module to the library module and the preview in the library does not always update with the new settings (such as dehire) right after the module switch. His issue is still under investigation and we haven't been able to reproduce it yet (I could not either).
Some suggestions:
1. What is your current standard preview size settings? Try to increase it.
2. Build the 1:1 previews ahead of file via Library>Previews>Build 1:1 Previews.
3. Adjust your display resolution.
Johan's reports seem to center around switching from the develop module to the library module and the preview in the library does not always update with the new settings (such as dehire) right after the module switch. His issue is still under investigation and we haven't been able to reproduce it yet (I could not either).
Simon,
thanks for your comprehensive reply and suggestions.
1. my preview size setting is 1:1, so there is nothing to increase. By testing different options I found out that if convert images into dng files during import LR accepts my selection regarding the preview setting. If I import images in the Canon file format CR though, LR always creates 1:1 previews regardless of what I choose.
2. yes, this is an option, especially when 1:1 previews have been discarded after a while ( in my case 30 days )
3. I am using the max and best display resolution already. Apart from this it seems to me that display resolution is not relevant because images are sharp when they are rendered 1:1 which indicates the issue is software related.
In the past I have been using the dng format and the standard previews. Only
lately I started to import in the CR file format. Also I have been working on images older than 30 days which explains unsharp previews.
So far so good and I guess I know what to do in the future.
But now comes something strange. With all my testing I did today I figured out that 1:1 images are sharper in the Library Module than in the Development Module. Something I did not notice before. Have you heard of that before ?
I shot an image of the spines of some books which shows nicely what I said and I am enclosing 2 pdf of the image in Library and Development Module. It is not an awful lot of a difference in image quality but it is clearly visible.
thanks for your comprehensive reply and suggestions.
1. my preview size setting is 1:1, so there is nothing to increase. By testing different options I found out that if convert images into dng files during import LR accepts my selection regarding the preview setting. If I import images in the Canon file format CR though, LR always creates 1:1 previews regardless of what I choose.
2. yes, this is an option, especially when 1:1 previews have been discarded after a while ( in my case 30 days )
3. I am using the max and best display resolution already. Apart from this it seems to me that display resolution is not relevant because images are sharp when they are rendered 1:1 which indicates the issue is software related.
In the past I have been using the dng format and the standard previews. Only
lately I started to import in the CR file format. Also I have been working on images older than 30 days which explains unsharp previews.
So far so good and I guess I know what to do in the future.
But now comes something strange. With all my testing I did today I figured out that 1:1 images are sharper in the Library Module than in the Development Module. Something I did not notice before. Have you heard of that before ?
I shot an image of the spines of some books which shows nicely what I said and I am enclosing 2 pdf of the image in Library and Development Module. It is not an awful lot of a difference in image quality but it is clearly visible.
Simon,
some additional information for you:
I figured out that if I have a 1:1 preview ( sharp ) and work on it in the development module it is unsharp after switching from development back to library module.
This is exactly the same what Johan described and it is very frustrating. I then have to zoom in and out to get it sharp.
What is your plan with this problem ?
some additional information for you:
I figured out that if I have a 1:1 preview ( sharp ) and work on it in the development module it is unsharp after switching from development back to library module.
This is exactly the same what Johan described and it is very frustrating. I then have to zoom in and out to get it sharp.
What is your plan with this problem ?
Simon Chen, Principal Computer Scientist
I've entered the info that you have provided to the bug that Johan referenced. It is being investigated.
Simon,
any results from the investigation available ?
any results from the investigation available ?
any news meanwhile?
I've installed new version from scratch (deleting the old one entirely, keeping the prefs only) and it seems to work now.
Are you using Windows or MacOS?
Windows
Good news for you and all others who use Windows. However, this “workaround” does not work for those who are using MacOS.
If it helps, I also changed Standard preview size from 1920 (my monitors' width) to 1680px, as I never view previews on the entire screen.
Preview Quality from Med to High
Also unchecked "Use Smart Previews..." in Preferences/Performance.
Preview Quality from Med to High
Also unchecked "Use Smart Previews..." in Preferences/Performance.
This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Lightroom Classic CC: shows low resolution image after changing settings.
The issue happens very often but not always. Lightroom shows low resolution image after changing settings (see the screenshots). If I change current image twice or even click on the same image on the ribbon, then it shows the correct image. The issue is so annoying that I'm going to stop using Lightroom just because of it. Please fix it as soon as possible!
Low resolution image:
The correct image:
The issue happens very often but not always. Lightroom shows low resolution image after changing settings (see the screenshots). If I change current image twice or even click on the same image on the ribbon, then it shows the correct image. The issue is so annoying that I'm going to stop using Lightroom just because of it. Please fix it as soon as possible!
Low resolution image:
The correct image:
still no fix in latest LR Classic 8.1 - the library module, slideshow are totally useless. Why should I view these crappy images on my large screen?
REALLY ANNOYING !!!
REALLY ANNOYING !!!
Same here! This issue has been around for a long time but no fix has been released despite all the user reports. Another update and still no fix to this issue is just nonsense. What’s the point of having a high megapixel camera and screen to look at low quality pixelated images all the time?!? I am so frustrated that I have started looking at other options. I’ve still got around 6 months left on my Adobe subscription but I am at the point where I no longer care. I just want what I am paying for... a software that actually works!
This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Lightroom Classic: Images in Library Module/Slideshow crappy unless I zoom in and....
It is a new post of the old bug report (many threads existed) as "Lightroom Classic: Images not sharp unless I zoom in and out". Adobe says it is 'in progress' since months but still latest LR Classic 8.1 did not fix the issue:
Regardless of config settings, in Library and Slideshow modules the loupe view/fullscreen views show crappy images not rendered with full resolution instead showing lots of banding artefacts. Develop mode is working well (was not always the case).
This way, Library and Slideshow modules are completely useless. This issue exists since a few versions as the other threads mention. I don't want to repeat but still request fixing this issue.
It is a new post of the old bug report (many threads existed) as "Lightroom Classic: Images not sharp unless I zoom in and out". Adobe says it is 'in progress' since months but still latest LR Classic 8.1 did not fix the issue:
Regardless of config settings, in Library and Slideshow modules the loupe view/fullscreen views show crappy images not rendered with full resolution instead showing lots of banding artefacts. Develop mode is working well (was not always the case).
This way, Library and Slideshow modules are completely useless. This issue exists since a few versions as the other threads mention. I don't want to repeat but still request fixing this issue.
( I don't want to repeat but still request fixing this issue.) AND SO WANT I
Argggggg, it is getting worse again instead of Adobe fixing this issue. Latest LR update did not solve the issue in Library mode again, and now the issue is back in Develop mode, to a little less degree disturbing than in Library mode but still also there, high quality images are shown only ONLY OOONNNLLYYY after manually zooming in and out again.
PLEASE TAKE THIS ISSUE SERIOUS instead of adding more features !!! Adobe: please comment about progress in solving this issue.
Attached three images: a) banding in Library mode, b) banding in Develop mode c) high quality image in Develop mode after zooming in and out again.
a:
b:
c:
PLEASE TAKE THIS ISSUE SERIOUS instead of adding more features !!! Adobe: please comment about progress in solving this issue.
Attached three images: a) banding in Library mode, b) banding in Develop mode c) high quality image in Develop mode after zooming in and out again.
a:
b:
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It is really annoying and I don't understand the company policy of Adobe who don't fix this. An image processing software that delivers no sharp images is an absolute
no go. Maybe we should consider suing them for cheating customers as their software doesn't delivery what they promise.
no go. Maybe we should consider suing them for cheating customers as their software doesn't delivery what they promise.
Rikk Flohr, Official Rep
Guys, is it possible that I can still be facing this issue? Because it is annoying af...
If you look on the sun reflection on the water it's clearly visible. For a second it is sharp and then it's gone. Occasionally it helps to change the mode from fit to fill, but not every time.
Yeah,and the smart previews are off.
I've also uploaded the screens to drive so it's better visible https://drive.google.com/open?id=1_iGz3sSevQIlNV95KbxO1DLCpW-F4pm-
Yeah,and the smart previews are off.
I've also uploaded the screens to drive so it's better visible https://drive.google.com/open?id=1_iGz3sSevQIlNV95KbxO1DLCpW-F4pm-
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Victoria Bampton - Lightroom Queen, Champion
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Rikk Flohr, Official Rep
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Jan-7-2018
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your last comment is 4 months old and the initial problem has been filed 10 months ago. I cannot believe Adobe is unable to get the problem fixed.
May-20-2019