Lightroom Classic 7.3: Graduated Filter Orientation Problem

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Quick description of problem:
Apply a graduated filter at 0 degrees to a horizontally oriented photograph.
Save as preset or copy.
Now use preset or paste copy to a vertically oriented photograph.

Problem: The graduated filter changes orientation 90 degrees.

Anyone else experiencing?

Thanks.
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Posted 8 months ago

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I can duplicate what you are seeing and will log a bug for it. Thanks for reporting it to us. 
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Mike Wardynski

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Thanks so much for reaching out. I use grad filter presets a lot in my work so hopefully it can be fixed by the next update.
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Mike Wardynski

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Hello, I just wanted to follow up with you on this issue. It has been a number of months and Adobe has failed to address this issue with the past two updates. Can you please check up on this issues progress? Thanks! 
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Lightroom Classic: Graduated filter presets no longer rotate when switched from v....

In Lightroom version 7.3, grad filter presets no longer rotate when switched from vertical to horizontal images and vice versa. This is a huge problem for me a fix would asap would be greatly appreciated. Anyone else having this issue? Any quick fixes out there?
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All the other LOCAL adjustments rotate so the Grad filter should too to be consistent 
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They are not supposed to rotate between horizontal and vertical images. imagine that you create a preset for sunset on a horizontal image but then you want to apply it to a vertical image. If the preset rotates it will be coming from the wrong direction.
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I think the issue is that  ALL Local Adjustments should operate the same and not have some of them rotate and some of them not.  Why should the grad filter be different? Either have them ALL rotate or NONE of them rotate.  
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Until the 7.3 update the grads rotated. I think the perfect solution is to have an option for rotation or no rotation. The best of both worlds!
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I can't speak for Adobe, but I wouldn't be surprised if this was intentional. Mike is right that it makes sense that a graduated filter does not rotate. That's because of how graduated filters are used to darken skies and things like that. At the same time, it also make sense that a radial filter does rotate, because these filters are often used to create a vignetting effect. So to me, they both do what I would want.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Lightroom Classic 7.4: Gradients Wrong Direction on Vertical Images.

In 7.4 on Mac the something is wrong with gradients when saved in a preset.

Take a horizontal image and place a gradient on the sky from top to bottom. Then save that gradient in a preset. Then apply that same preset to a vertical image. Instead of being a top-down gradient, the gradient will be applied to the side (as in left to right) on the image vertically, completely changing the outcome.

This is a new problem and I have confirmed that in 7.2 it does not exist. In the past versions, grads saved in a preset applied exactly as they were saved. There seems to be a bug in 7.4 changing the behavior and making gradients of little use in presets.
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As I wrote in a merged topic, it's interesting that copy/paste and sync of develop settings still behave as presets used to prior to 7.3. 
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Lightroom Preset Gradients still rotate between vertical and horizontal images..

As of Lightroom Classic CC version 7.3 presets with a graduated filter now rotate depending on the orientation of the image.

For example. If I create a preset with a grad filter coming from the top of a horizontal image and apply it to a vertical image  the grad filter will come from the side instead of the top. This makes presets that utilize a grad filter pretty much useless and inconstant. Can we please get this issue fixed by the next release of Lightroom?

Thanks
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled LR Classic doesn't handle local corrections with image rotation.

I've had continuing problems combining local corrections and local corrections. If local corrections are applied and the image is rotated the corrections may or may not move correctly. The problem is also sometimes amplified if I then choose to "Edit Original" when it seems to instruct Photoshop to rotate the image, which then results in a completely ruined Lightroom version since it's not rotated. In those instances I've had to remove the photo from Lightroom and then re-import it and start over.
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From the merged thread:

I observe screwy but different results:

1. Open a raw in Develop.

2. Do Edit In Adobe Photoshop CC 2018.

3. In PS, do File > Save As, Format: Photoshop. Library thumbnails look like:



4. In LR, open the PSD in Develop.

5. Use the Adjustment Brush with Exposure = -4 to put a mark (the hand-drawn letters "UR") in the upper-right corner.

6. Do Rotate Right.



7. Do Edit In Adobe Photoshop CC 2018, Edit Original.  

8. In PS, do File > Save.

9. Observe the PSD's thumbnail preview in Library is incorrectly rotated from the original raw 180 degrees, with the mark added by the adjustment brush still in the lower-right corner:



10. Open the PSD in Develop and observe that it still appears correctly as it did after step 6:



11. In Library, select the PSD and do Library > Build 1:1 Previews. The thumbnail remains unchanged.

12. Export the PSD to a JPEG and observe that the exported JPEG looks like the PSD thumbnail in step 9.

13. Restart LR. 

14. Observe that the PSD thumbnail is now correctly rotated right 90 degrees from the original, with the adjustment-brush mark incorrectly in the upper-right corner:



15. Export the PSD to a JPEG and observe that the JPEG looks like the thumbnail in step 14.

16. Open the PSD in Develop and observe that it incorrectly looks like the thumbnail in step 14:



LR 7.5 / Mac 10.13.6.