Lightroom Classic 7.3.1: Not Showing Converted Presets

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I upgraded to 7.3 and it looks like all the presets were converted to the XMP format. I didn't pay attention since no errors pop up. I then upgraded to 7.3.1 yesterday and it looks like it is trying to convert the presets again in the Lightroom/Develop Presets folder. All the presets have the ~ in front of it. It failed because there are already .xmp files in the CameraRaw/Settings folder.

So, I decided to delete all the .lrtemplate presets from the Lightroom/Develop folder. I restarted Lightroom but none of the presets show up. So, my question is how do I get Lightroom to look into the new CameraRaw/Settings folder for presets? The Show Lightroom Presets Folder in Preferences still point to Lightroom/Develop folder but there is no where to change it and this https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom/kb/not-all-presets-are-converted.html said the new converted presets are put into the CameraRaw/Settings folder.
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Simon Chen, Principal Computer Scientist

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Normally Lr 7.3.1 would redo the conversion to fix some known sorting issue introduced as part of the Lr 7.3 conversion. That is to say you there is nothing that you need to do prior to launching Lr 7.3.1.

You should not have manually deleted the .lrtemplate files under the Lightroom/Develop Presets. Those are your original lua based presets. I hope that you have a way to restore them.

If the existing .xmp files in the CameraRaw/Settings folder are preventing the conversion from succeeding (it shouldn't happen, make sure you have read/write permissions to the folder and the .xmp files themselves). It is ok to remove the .xmp files in the CameraRaw/Settings folder before the reconersion starts in Lr 7.3.1 as long as you still have the original .lrtemplate files available as a backup.

There is another way to manually import the .lrtemplate (also .xmp) from a folder. Click on the “+” icon on the presets panel, there isa “Import Preset(s)...” command that allows you can import presets from any folder.

This KB doc might be helpful https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom/kb/not-all-presets-are-converted.html
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Yes, I still have the original presets on another computer. I will try again and report back. Thanks!
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Okay, it looks like Lightroom doesn't like symbolic links. I started using an utility called Mackup that keep application settings in sync by using Dropbox. One of the applications it claims to support is Lightroom. After I uninstalled the utility which reverts back to storing the actual files in the original location, Lightroom was able to convert the existing presets (in my case the XMP files). 
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Joshua Anderson

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Hello, 

I just wanted to provide my experience in dealing with .lrtemplate to .xmp preset import/conversion issues I've had since the latest update in April. 

Like many others, I have a lot of presets that are using the old .lrtemplate file format which is essentially a json object string. They all worked fine of course before the update to LR that changed the format of these files from .lrtemplate to .xmp. Over the weekend, I saw more articles from Adobe saying there was an issue when importing older .lrtemplate presets that had special characters in the name. So I made sure all the file names only had letters and dashes per the article I read. They still didn't import. So I decided to open one these .lrtemplate files in a text editor and sure enough there was two areas that had a "name" property and had all kinds of special characters. It seems that the file name is just that; a file name that you have on your computer. Lightroom doesn't use the actual file name when importing/converting .xmp, but instead it uses a name property that is inside the file contents. These names had the same name as the file name on my Macbook had, but there was '.' and '*' and '&' characters as well which was causing the import/convert to .xmp file issue. After changing all those properties in the .lrtemplate files themselves, I tried importing again, and it worked! I highly recommend Adobe developers to fix the import/conversion of older .lrtemplate files to .xmp files to maybe clean the file name properties inside the .lrtemplate files within Lightroom. People have way to many presets they might be using that have special characters in the actual json content and not allowing them to import those will have adverse effects I'm guessing.

I hope this workaround helps, though it is a kind of a painful process if you have a lot of them. I did this last night for around 20 presets, but after not being able to import them at all, doing this finally worked! 
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Joshua Anderson

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Yes it was from the left side presets panel while in Develop mode. I right clicked on a folder that already existed when LR originally imported some presets successfully after the update.
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Chinoy Gupta, Employee

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Hi Joshua,

I am not able to reproduce this issue with "." or "&" present in the lrtemplate file. Will it be possible for you to share one preset for which import failed, if you still have it.

Thanks,
Chinoy
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Joshua Anderson

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Hello, yes here is one that didn't import on my Windows 10 PC with the 7.3 update LR: https://we.tl/BnyyC4ZhdU

I already changed all those files to be able to work and I don't remember how they were named exactly. However that file I just shared with you has a ':' inside the contents of the file like this:
internalName = "HTCH : 05",
title = "HTCH : 05"

And that didn't import.
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Chinoy Gupta, Employee

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Thanks Joshua. I am able to reproduce the issue with ":". We are working on it.

Thanks,
Chinoy
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Joshua Anderson

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Awesome! Good to know 
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Joshua Anderson

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I'll add to this saying this issue seems to be fully fixed in the latest version if Lightroom. Thank you!
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Chinoy Gupta, Employee

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Thanks for the confirmation.