Lightroom CC 2015.6.1: Inconsistent displays images based on filter ratings if metadata in XML differs from catalog

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I used Photo Mechanic to go through a Folder with nearly 3000 wedding pictures to rate them with 1 or 2 stars (I got big speed issues in LR at the moment, too). Then imported the folder and synced the metadata to the catalog so I have the star ratings from Photo Mechanic in LR.
NOW:
I further uprated some of the images (up to 3 or 4 stars) in LR to narrow down my selection. Inmidst this process I turned on auto write XMP files so I have those changes in XMP and not only in the catalog file. I turned on the ratings filter in LR to see only 3 stars and higher images. 

Here is the problem: 
If I turn the filter off (and I mean ALL FILTERS OFF) I still see only 3 star and higher rated images that I rated in LR. All other images are not displayed at all in the grid view so I cannot further increase the ratings. 
If I change the filter to show less or equal to 2 star images I see ALL the images with the old ratings (even those I uprated to 3 or 4 stars) from photo mechanic in the LR grid view. 

I have to deliver those files ASAP to my clients. This is a big issue for me!
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A couple of possibilities come to mind.

First, there have been a few reports in the past that LR screwed up the filter presets menu, and that the Filters Off preset stopped working properly:

Rather than using that, give the menu command Library > Enable Filters and verify that it is not checked.  Then do all the photos show up regardless of rating?

Second, let's verify that the star ratings you think should be applied to a photo are actually applied in the catalog. Go to View > View Options and configure Compact Cell Extras and Expand Cell Extras to show the star rating under the thumbnails in grid view.  Then you can see at a glance whether the issue might be applying the correct rating to a photo or getting the filtering to work.

If neither of these help sort out the issue, it would help to post a full-resolution screenshot showing the filter with 2 stars or less, and with the star ratings displayed under the thumbnails.  Often a screenshot gives clues about what might be going on or how to proceed.

Your subject line says "if metadata in XML differs from catalog".  But since you've turned on Automatically Write Changes Into XMP, it should be the case that what's in the catalog matches what's written to XMP.  Is there anything that leads you to think that might not be the case?
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Also, the full-resolution screenshot should include the entire LR window, to help us look for clues.
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Your subject line says "if metadata in XML differs from catalog".  But since you've turned on Automatically Write Changes Into XMP, it should be the case that what's in the catalog matches what's written to XMP.  Is there anything that leads you to think that might not be the case?
Well, as far as I know/observed metadata changes are only written to the files after you turn on the "Automatically write..." function. All changes made earlier are not written so the changes I did earlier before turning on this functionality are not in the XMP files.

The good thing: I found a workaround. I manually saved the uprated photos' metadata to XMP files and voila the filtering works again as expected and I see all the photos with the ratings when I turn filters off.

Thanks for your fast response John!
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Well, as far as I know/observed metadata changes are only written to the files after you turn on the "Automatically write..." function. All changes made earlier are not written so the changes I did earlier before turning on this functionality are not in the XMP files. 
When LR is operating normally, enabling Automatically Write Changes Into XMP will ensure that all .xmp files match what's in the catalog, updating .xmp files if necessary.  This will happen regardless of when changes were made to the photo's metadata.  
I manually saved the uprated photos' metadata to XMP files and voila the filtering works again as expected
Glad you found a workaround.  Something weird was happening -- normally, filtering and smart collections only pay attention to the metadata values stored in the catalog.  Whether or not changes have been manually or automatically saved to .xmp files should have no bearing on filtering and smart collections.