Lightroom Camera Calibration Controls and ON/OFF Switch Issues

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There are two issues with the Camera Calibration panel switch when set to OFF. Please see this post in the Lightroom forum for more information: https://forums.adobe.com/message/7408...

1) The topmost ‘Process’ selector remains active. This is inconsistent with all other panels, which disable ALL controls.

2) The camera ‘Profile’ changes to the profile appearing at the top of the pulldown selection list. Below is what my profile list looks like. It causes the top-most inverted tone curve profile to be applied when the switch is placed to OFF, which is obviously incorrect.



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Remove the Process and Profile selectors from the Camera Calibration panel. Since a Process Version and Camera Profile must be selected to edit any image there is no need for an ON/OFF switch. This allows placing them inside the Basic panel or in a separate panel adjacent to the Basic panel. This makes it easier to use them and also provides quick visual feedback of the PV and Camera Profile settings applied to previously edited images. No need to scroll down to the bottom-most Camera Calibration panel to see them. The Camera Calibration panel can remain at the bottom, sans the Process and Profile controls since it is less frequently used.
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Yes, I agree with addressing this issue. It sounds like a minor one, but I spent hours trying to figure out what I had done that cause the profile selection option to be grayed out. Turned out that i had accidentally turned off previewing that tab. I work on a Mac and I understand the Windows version may be different. At any rate, I think the interface needs some resign so that this sort of confusion is less likely to occur.
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Scott, I believe the behavior is the same on both Mac OS X and Windows systems. The reason some people see no change with the switch OFF is because their default Develop Settings are set to the Profile at the top of list. Try selecting the top-most profile and then turn the Camera Calibration switch ON and OFF. You shouldn't see any change if the sliders are all at 0 settings.

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I think it's fine exactly how things work, now, except maybe the default profile should be selected rather than the topmost when the switch is off. I have several custom-created profiles that start with a WB temperature number and one of those will be selected rather than Adobe Standard when the switch is off.

Specifically, I don't want to lose two lines of sliders by moving the Process and Profile to the top, in or above the Basic panel, out of the Camera Calibration area.

The Profile belongs there because it is definitely part of the camera calibration and not part of the Basic panel.

The Process selection isn't really part of Camera Calibration so it is not dimmed when the panel is disabled, but it doesn't really belong anywhere else, either, so having it at the bottom out of the way is fine with me. You can see that the current process isn't selected with an indicator on the histogram and can hover over that to see what it is and click on it to update to the current process version so the only time you really need to look or select something in the Process list is when the current process is current and you want to set an old one, which is so rare that it doesn't warrant taking up an entire line at the top, shifting everything else down.
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Thinking about things a little more, the Camera Calibration on/off switch should ONLY affect the color tint/hue/sat sliders and not the Profile or Process items, because only the sliders have a zero value that makes sense to reset to when off.

Process and Profile need to be set to something and arbitrarily setting the Profile to the top one (as if Adobe Standard is always the top one and always the default) is less than useful.
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Steve, I think you are right. The Process and Profile selector are best located in the Camera Calibration panel. The Shadows and RGB Primary controls are specific to the camera profile and process version. All of these settings should be saved in a Develop preset for future use so it makes sense to keep them in the same panel.

If the purpose of the Camera Calibration panel is to allow customization of the camera profile then it makes sense to set ALL of these controls to the default Develop Settings. That way you can toggle the switch ON/OFF to compare the affect of the customized settings versus the default Develop Settings.
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The fact that turning OFF the switch picks a profile that is at the top of the list, based on it's name makes zero sense to me! And that is by design. The profile selected with the switch set to OFF could be the original one selected by the user. Not some arbitrary profile based on it's name. But I also see no reason to even alter the profile with the switch set to off. Maybe turn off the sliders IF set to something other than their defaults. There is never no profile being used, why gray out the profile? Why pick a profile solely based on it's spelling. This isn't a huge big deal, but for Adobe who very often designs it's products well and logically, the current behavior is sloppy.
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Exactly.