Lightroom 2015.6: Fullscreen Mode on Mac Disabled

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In the release notes for LR 2015.6, it states that it fixes "inconsistent dialog behavior when using full-screen mode in Mac OS X 10.11." This may be the case, however it's been achieved at the cost of removing true fullscreen support from the application altogether. While it's still possible to enter a version of "fullscreen" by navigating to WINDOW -> SCREEN MODE, it's no longer possible to press the green button in the upper left hand corner of the application and position Lightroom in its own dedicated space in the OS. As such, LR is not running in true fullscreen mode -- it's still occupying the same "space" as the primary desktop / Finder, completely obscuring the desktop and creating usability issues when switching between open applications.
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Kelly C., Senior Lightroom QE

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This was an intentional change in Lightroom 6.6/CC 2015.6. 
 

Support has been disabled for El Capitan’s new full-screen mode, as it was causing issues with some of Lr’s modal dialogs (such as Export, etc). Lightroom features its own full-screen & full-screen preview modes, so the application continues to behave the same way it always has with prior versions of Mac OS. That said, we will continue to investigate ways to accommodate changes to Mac OS workflow going forward.

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Bert Buivenga

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Intentional? Well to me this is just bad programming. How difficult can it be to let Lightroom behave like it should in El Capitan and not in an inconsistent manner. Beats me. I'd prefer Adobe to fix this omission.
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Benjamin Aldrich

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This is really  disappointing I used the full-screen all the time. I would really appreciate it being brought back.  
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Incredibly disappointing! I use Lightroom daily and it always lives in fullscreen mode. My workflow revolves around this OS-standard feature. I know well what Kelly is talking about when she mentions the issues with modal dialogues. Those issues were indeed annoying. But you know what's even more annoying? Not having the OS-native fullscreen functionality.
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+1, clicking the green fullscreen button was the first thing I did when opening LR most of the time, and I never encountered any issue with it. I didn't correlate the loss of that function with the LR update straight away, and lost an hour checking my OSX settings and tweaks and rebooting trying to find what I had screwed up by mistake...

I found the "new space, drag LR to it, shift-F twice" workaround but still, it's a pain to do each time.
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Running Lightroom on a MacBook, this change makes it almost unusable. The 10-15% reduction in screen space, along with needing to manual hide the dock every time I use Lightroom is a major inconvenience. Please change it back!
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Agree if this is not changed I will no longer be supporting Adobe products. 
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Briton Claridge

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This was a very, very poor choice. It's 2016. Make the program work within the framework of the OS it's operating in. 
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M Bailey

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Kelly, really appreciate the personal response. I'd strongly urge you to please reconsider adopting a version of the OS's built-in fullscreen feature in the future. The way the OS assigns fullscreen apps to their own dedicated space creates a much cleaner and more seamless workflow than having LR simply filling the screen over the desktop space. This new iteration blocks out functionality for the dock, makes it more cumbersome to navigate to the desktop / Finder and back, and makes rapid switching to other non-fullscreen apps become cluttered and distracting.

The OS's built-in fullscreen app handling includes advantages that go far beyond an application simply filling the screen from corner to corner. With this upgrade, LR has jettisoned all of those advantages, and is now forcing its users to interact with the program in ways that apply to no other application out there. 

Thanks so much for your consideration. 
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Aidan Wojtas

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Great post M Bailey, totally agree.
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Byron Chin

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Completely agreed!
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Wolfgang Maennel

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Fully agree. Mac full screen mode is a big productivity plus.
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Benjamin Aldrich

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Completely agreed!
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David Prosser

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Agree as well. 
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André Köthur

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I also completely agree! Please bring back true fullscreen mode!
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Kelly C., Senior Lightroom QE

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For now, please consider this behavior a temporary workaround. We will look into better integration with this feature addition to OS X.
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Benjamin Aldrich

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Thank you!
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I gotta wonder how Julieanne feels about this change. She always uses full-screen in her workshops. I hope the temporariness is extremely temporary. The change was the very first thing I noticed about the latest version. I really don't mind how the dialogues worked in full-screen. I'd rather have full-screen back and wait for changes to the modal dialogues, if Adobe is concerned about those.
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Jeffrey Tranberry, Sr. Product Manager, Digital Imaging

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Julieanne uses the app specific full-screen modes in Photoshop and Lightroom (not native Mac full screen mode)
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Aidan Wojtas

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Agree with Matthew above, the over-sized dialogue windows are manageable, but losing full screen is annoying continuously.
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M Bailey

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Exactly. An aesthetic problem was "fixed" by creating a true usability issue instead.
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Matthew Vanecek

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Jeffrey, on the occasions that I've seen Julieanne present, she's used the green button to go full screen. I couldn't tell you what she does when she's working with you, of course.
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Photoshop CC has done this for at least 3 months (when I signed up) it's very annoying, but if you add a second desktop and only put Lr there, you get a pretty good work around. Your main desktop won't be obscured anyway.
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We all love Lightroom because it's designed to help us with our workflow. But this has been a huge loss. Please make restoring full screen mode a priority.
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As much as I appreciate the fact a fix for the dialogue box situation is needed, I fail to see how removing what is otherwise a perfectly useful feature helps the situation. All it does is inconvenient the people who do use it.

Maybe putting some kind of switch in preferences to restore it for those who do depend on it would be a better solution?
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A solution previously posted has apparently been overlooked. Simply create a second desktop, and make LR full screen in the second desktop.  
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That solution has not been overlooked it just is not as elegant as using the built in functionality of the full screen option in OSX. I would say it is best used as a temporary stopgap until this is hopefully fixed.  
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I can't believe that they would remove full screen, this is ridiculous! Adobe, please reconsider, that is a huge loss of functionality to correct what is purely an aesthetic bug! Full screen is not just having the extra window space, it is also so you can swap between virtual desktops by swiping 4 fingers on the trackpad, so that you can quickly change between applications.
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Until they fix the green button method, you can actually achieve the same thing. Create a second desktop using the Mission Control feature in OS X. The default gesture is three finger swipe up. Once created, move Lr to that desktop. Make it full screen using the menu options Window > Screen Mode > Full Screen. Be sure not to use the 'F' key, as that gets you to Full Screen Preview mode...and that's not what you want. Once set-up, you can swipe left and right between your two desktop windows, one of them containing Lr in full screen mode.
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Cheers for the workaround tip. Hopefully this won't be needed for too long, though I fear it will be another few months until 2015.7 is released, if it's fixed in that release :/
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THANK YOU!! I'm a recent convert to Mac so I never would have figured this out! Still a bit of a pain compared to just pressing the green button, but this removes a lot of frustration until this is 'fixed'
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You're welcome.
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Unfortunately, this helps a little but not a ton. Especially on a smaller laptop like a MacBook or MacBook Air, you still lose valuable screen space (top bar, windows edges and dock still show up)
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Not in my experience. I'm using Lr as we speak, doing some editing. No top bar, no side edges, no dock. Let me know if you need help. Other than the green button shortcut, it works exactly as before, same screen space, just with a few extra steps to get there. Lr even opens in full screen in a second desktop after you close and reopen it. Remember, you have to create a second desktop, then put Lr in full screen in that second desktop (I'm not talking about an external monitor if that's what you're thinking). The top bar (Lightroom, Edit, Library, Photo, etc) will show up if you hover to the top, but the dock won't. Not sure what you mean by windows edges...
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Agree with the above. This is a huge loss in the functionality of LR on a Mac. Full screen mode is a major part of my workflow and I am lost without it. I sometimes use LR on a 11 inch screen and not having the ability to enter full screen greatly reduces the amount of working space available.
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There is a workaround listed elsewhere in this thread: "Until they fix the green button method, you can actually achieve the same thing. Create a second desktop using the Mission Control feature in OS X. The default gesture is three finger swipe up. Once created, move Lr to that desktop. Make it full screen using the menu options Window > Screen Mode > Full Screen. Be sure not to use the 'F' key, as that gets you to Full Screen Previewmode...and that's not what you want. Once set-up, you can swipe left and right between your two desktop windows, one of them containing Lr in full screen mode."
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Thanks Kevin, that's very helpful.
Probably not relevant to this thread, but do you know if the same thing can be done with Photoshop CC?
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I just tried it. Yes, sort of. Create a new space, drag PS on to it, and in PS, select View > Screen Mode > Full Screen with Menu Bar
It keeps the top menu bar but it is pretty close to how LR used to be full screen.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled After the latest update, the Maximize button of LR on MAC EL Capitan is not worki....

The Maximize button of LR in MAC EL Capitan is not taking the application to Full screen mode with Menu Bar mode without the DOCK. Though there is a workaround to get there but I would prefer to have that functionality back. Looks like Adobe has made this change in there latest update. Please revert it back.
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So what I hear is "We couldn't figure out how to do what every other developer has done so we regressed to something easy at the expense of our users". Isn't this Adobe's response for everything that has to do with usability? Can we pause developing new features and fix what we already have that doesn't work correctly?
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Must support the posts above.  Not as bad as the mistake made earlier with the input screen changes but again very frustrating. Please bring back this functionality asap.
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Kelly C., Senior Lightroom QE

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Native macOS fullscreen support will be restored in the next release of Lightroom, along with fixes to the modal dialog behavior that necessitated it be disabled for the Lr 6.6 / CC2015.6 release.
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That's great news, Kelly. Greatly appreciate you listening to the community of users here. Can't wait to have this feature back!
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Thanks for the update.
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Thank you for the update this is great news! Hopefully the sluggishness will also be taken care of in the next update as well. 
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BTW, implement split screen as well.
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Jeffrey Tranberry, Sr. Product Manager, Digital Imaging

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Split screen comes with native Mac OS fullscreen, so it should work once it's reenabled.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled split screen os x El Capitain.

I would love to run Lightroom (and any other Adobe App) in OS X's built in SplitScreen mode. Apparently Adobe don't use Apple's fullscreen APIs so it's not currently possible, but it would make my working life easier/more enjoyable.
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Official Response
Native full screen mode support was reinstated and the issues fixed in today's 2015.6.1 update: http://blogs.adobe.com/lightroomjournal/2016/07/lightroom-cc-2015-6-1-now-available.html
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Link is broken. 
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Looks like the blog post hasn't actually been pushed live yet, but since staff are already posting the release everywhere, my post is live http://www.lightroomqueen.com/whats-new-in-lightroom-cc-2015-6-1-and-lightroom-6-6-1/
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Jeffrey Tranberry, Sr. Product Manager, Digital Imaging

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It's live now.
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Good job and swift too!