Lightroom: Library filter deactivated when exporting JPG to same folder

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Hello! I have a question about something I, for the life of me, cannot figure out, although I expect the answer to be trivial. IN LR 6.12 (and at least two previous versions) whenever I export images in the same folder, all my sorting filters in the library module stop working. For instance, if I have only the picked images shown, the filter is deactivated and all images are shown again and Lighroom jumps around showing me the newly exported images. I cannot keep an image marked while it is jumping around. I have an existing folder with raw images. I have ten of them picked, 90 not. When I now select "Export as Jpeg into the same folder", the filter I had set to "picked only" is deactivated, I see all the 100 images again and LR jumps from one newly exported (and immediately imported and stacked) image to the next. My suspicion is that it has something to do with the newly created jpeg copies being imported into the catalogue of that folder. I do not understand why this does not happen quietly in the background, so that I keep displaying only my 10 marked images. Until 2 updates ago, this was not an issue. What can I do?
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I never re-import exported images (because you can simply export images again when you need them again) but I assume this is done on purpose. If Lightroom does not reset the filters, those newly imported images might not show at all because they don't fit the criteria of the active filter. That is logical, but that will confuse many people, who will think that 'it is not working'.
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Dear Johan, thank you for the reply. Yes, there is a purpose. I export JPG copies of the raw files to be sent to clients. Upon exporting the jpgs by the same name as the raw files and in the same folder, they are automatically imported and stacked behind the raw files, which is in itself a good thing. Using the filter I can choose which images I look at and the JPG copies are stacked with the picked images hence they are visible to me with the filter on. There is no reason why the filter setting should be affected, and it was not until two or three updates ago.

My logic is the direct opposite to yours. Somebody using a filter should not be surprised if new images that do not match the criteria do not show up. That is after all the whole point of a filter.

Anyway, people on Facebook came up with a possible solution and I will post here if it works. I have to check it tonight.
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Yep, that's the point of a filter. But if I was paid just one dollar for each time somebody didn't understand the obvious, I would be a very wealthy man... :)
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KH,

I'm not able to replicate this behavior, and I suspect you're encountering a bug.  I used these steps:

1. In the Library Filter bar, I clicked Attribute and then Flagged Only:



2. I selected one of the photos and did an export with these settings:




The Library Filter bar settings remained unchanged after the export completed.

If you follow these exact steps, do you still observe the filter getting reset?

If so, one thing to try is to reset LR's preferences: https://www.lightroomqueen.com/articles-page/how-do-i-reset-lightrooms-preferences/ . LR often soils its preferences file, and when it does, the user interface can start acting wonky.
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I'm using LR CC 2015.12 / OS X 10.12.6.   

Please do Help > System Info and report the exact version you're using and Windows / Mac -- LR often fools people into thinking they're on "the latest".
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Dear John,
thank you very much for your reply. I am very through with all updates and I am running LR 6.12. The procedure you describe is exactly what I do and what gives me my jumpy LR library. Unfortunately resettig the preferences did not change anything. On FB someone suggested to use the little padlock button in top right hand corner of the library module and that worked. I never really noticed it until today. Is that fairly new?
I surely never used that before today so I guess it is either new or was not necessary until rather recently. If this is a newer feature than this might be the change I missed and the setting I did not know I needed. In the versions where my process worked without LR getting all jumpy, I never used it to lock the filter.
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Ah, yes, I always forget about the padlock, since I always keep it locked (it does the same thing as the menu command File > Library Filters > Lock Filters.  (Why it is in the File menu rather than the Library menu is just one of Lightroom's mysteries.)

Lock Filters has long been in LR, since at least LR 3. The documentation says:

https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom/help/browse-compare-photos.html

"Lock Filters Applies the current filters to subsequently selected folders or collections."

Even though you haven't changed the currently selected source, LR gets confused by the export and thinks that the source has changed, and if the filters are unlocked, it will reset them. Keeping the filters locked prevents LR from resetting the filters in that case.

Most likely, you had the filters locked originally and then at some point they got unlocked, either by an accidental click or by LR itself being flakey.




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oh my God. I had the same issue. Padlock changed my day and workflow, thank you guys!
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Dear John and Johan,
thank you very much for taking the time help me. This was the first time I have used this plattform and it was a really pleasant experience!
Best regards,
Karsten