Camera Raw/Lightroom: Lens profiles for Panasonic system

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As user of the Panasonic Lumix G - Sytem camera, I would be very interested in having integrated the respective lens profiles for the panasonic lenses (esp. f2.8/12-35; f2.8/35-100; f4.0-5.6/100-300; f1.7/20).
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I believe lens profiles are already applied automatically by PS / ACR and Lightroom:
http://www.photozone.de/olympus--four...

ACR will show the fact it is using a built-in profile. Here is an example for another camera:


Otherwise, a way to tell is to open a raw file in a raw converter that doesn't do lens corrections, like RawTherapee, and see if things look worse.
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Dear Steve, many thanks for your prompt answer. I will check with ACR myself to be sure. In Lightroom which I use most of the time I cannot see a change when I check or uncheck "lens corrections" in the develop module and there is no such hint as shown in the ACR window. In the drop down list under "lens corrections" there are many brands, only panasonic is missing.
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For some reason LR users don't get to see if a lens profile is being applied. It seems like there should be hover-text that tells the same things as ACR does. If LR is applying a built-in lens correction you cannot turn it off by unchecking the Lens Corrections checkbox. That allows someone to create an external lens profile that corrects for what the built-in-always-on profile didn't correct for and turn that additional correction on and off.

When a camera does lens corrections to its own JPGs Adobe generally also adds built-in lens corrections behind the scenes to duplicate what the camera does. Most micro-4/3 cameras do their own corrections, nowadays, so Adobe also has built-in corrections for them, nowadays.

It is for DSLRs or the oldest micro-4/3 cameras that don't do their own corrections, there are still external, selectable lens profiles.

In other words, the lack of a profile in the listing doesn't mean there are no lens corrections occuring, it just means there aren't any you can turn on and off.
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Thank you, I think I understand now! So I do not need to worry about that point any longer.
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I am sorry, but I am here again: I just tried out ACR with my RW2 photos (or the DNG files generated from them) and unfortunately I am told that the lens profiles cannot be found automatically. So what does this mean? What can I do with this information?
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You need to be using at least Camera Raw 8.4 to see the indication about built-in lens profiles being always applied.

You are using ACR 8.0, which is too old.

That doesn't mean the lens profiles aren't being applied, it just means that ACR isn't telling you that it is or isn't applying them. The error you see if for external lens profiles which your Panasonic camera probably doesn't have because all its profiles are internal.

The verticals in that raw file are straight rather than curved so I'd guess there is a lens profile being applied.

Can you not update ACR by doing a Help / Updates in Photoshop?
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Hi, this seems to be a very good point! Unfortunately, when I do Help/Updates in Photoshop I get the answer, that all checked applcations (PS CC, LR, Bridge) are the most recent versions. That is actually what I expect from automatic updates via Adobe Creative Cloud..... I had my latest Update to Photoshop CC 2014 only a week ago, I deinstalled the previous versions after installing it. I cannot find an ACR Version >8.0 on the Adobe Website, only Adobe DNG Converter 8.5 which seems to run for its own and has no influence on the ACR version of Photoshop. In the list of application in Creative Cloud I could not find ACR as App of it ́s own (? Maybe I missed it).
Do you have a link for downloading the ACR 8.4?
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So Help / Updates from within Photoshop does nothing?

Some people have had issues getting only ACR 8.0 with PS CC 2014 instead of ACR 8.5, and that sounds like it's happened to you.

The first thing to try is Quit and restart the Adobe Creative Cloud app, then set the All Apps list to Previous Versions and if there is now a PS CC 2014 update down in that list, run it, as shown here:
https://forums.adobe.com/message/6495...

If that fails to work, then try the manual update process shown, here, as the Correct Answer portion just below the original question:
https://forums.adobe.com/message/6497...
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I must say, that I also would like to see a color profile for panasonic cameras. The profiles for nikon (camera stantard, camera neutral etc) seem to work pretty well, but when I try to edit raw files from my panasonic camera, things are as smooth. I haven't done any color calibration stuff because I don't have charts or prints or stuff, but I feel in general it would be good if something would be done with this.
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Hi all,

Lens correction should indeed be automatic for Panasonic camera but it does not work 100%. of the time.

For instance, no problem with my previous Panasonic G7 but no luck with my new Panasonic G8 (G80/G81/G85).

I opened a post in Adobe Lightroom forum:
https://forums.adobe.com/message/9370660#9370660

I hope Adobe will come with a fix soon.

BR,
Arnauld.
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Lens correction is integrated in the Micro-ForThird system, and automatically applied. Look for the information line in the lower part of the Lens Correction panel > Profile in Lightroom Develop, when the Enable Profile Correction is unchecked. It should say: Built-in Lens Profile applied.
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