Lightroom CC: Missing lens profile for Canon 85mm F1.8

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I am using a Canon 85mm F1.8 USM lens on a Olympus EM1 ii with a Viltrox speedbooster. In BridgeCC I can open using camera rawCC and find the lens profile. However, when I use LightroomCC, the profile cannot be found. How can the profile be added?
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Chris Castleberry, Camera Raw Engineer

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Hello,

The profile should be available in LrCC if you have a version that is up-to-date with the version of Camera Raw on the same system. So, first be sure your copy of LrCC is current.

Failing that, post a link to a sample raw and I can confirm whether I can reproduce the issue here.

Regards,

- Chris
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Hi Chris, thanks for the reply. I subscribe to the Lightroom ClassicCC/PhotoshopCC/BridgeCC and Camera Raw which are all updated automatically. No updates are currently available so I assume I've got the latest versions.

The raw files are Olympus .ORF. When I open using camera raw from Bridge there is an 'i' at the bottom of the edit pane which says a built-in lens profile has been applied, also detailing the lens, ie 85mm F1.8. I can also see this profile if I tick 'enable profile corrections'.

In LightroomCC the 'i' at bottom of lens profile pane says that a profile has been applied in camera without detail of the lens. If I tick 'enable profile corrections' I cannot see the lens in the list.

Perhaps I am assuming wrongly that the profile has not been added. Perhaps LightroomCC does not give the option if it knows the correct profile is there already and doesn't advertise the profile in the list. Is that right? In which case LightroomCC is smarter than BridgeCC and I'm barking up the wrong tree!

I can send you a sample file for you to try if you want to pursue this. Otherwise I'm happy to use Bridge anyway.

Thanks for the prompt reply

Chris Simmonds
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Hi Chris,

Thank you for clarifying the versions you have.

Generally, Micro Four Thirds cameras have built-in lens corrections for native lenses, but in your case there should be no automatic corrections, unless the camera is applying a correction because it assumes a different lens is attached.

As far as I know, Lightroom CC should behave the same as Camera Raw in this scenario, so if you are willing to share a sample raw, I would appreciate it.

Thanks,

- Chris
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Hi Chris, have you an email address I can send an example that was taken today, thanks

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Whether this is significant or not, when I look for a lens profile in Lightroom ClassicCC, in my list of Canon lenses there are no telephoto lenses listed at all, the 85mm F1.8 being the first that's missing.

In ACR initiated from BridgeCC, the whole gamut of Canon telephoto lenses are present in the list, from the 85mm lenses up to the 800mm.
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I see the same set of profiles in Lightroom Classic CC, Lightroom CC, and Camera Raw (versions 7.4, 1.4, and 10.4 respectively). 

Will you please confirm that in Lightroom you are working with the raw file and not a JPEG copy of it?

Profiles for raw and JPEG are completely separate and the latter has far fewer available profiles. That is the only discrepancy I can think of here unless your version of Lightroom suffered a partial/bad installation.

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I am processing the raw files as I didn't even save a jpeg. But if you say you cannot reproduce the problem then it must be my installation in some way, though I don't see how it could be wrong. I subscribe to Adobe using the photographers package of Adobe Creative Cloud, which includes PhotoshopCC, BridgeCC, ACR, LightroomCC and Lightroom ClassicCC. Nothing else.

Are you comparing like for like or are you comparing the full blown Photoshop? Maybe the photographer package has a cut down version of LightroomClassicCC ?
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You know what, I am an idiot and I must apologise for wasting your time. When in ACR launched from BridgeCC and trying to select a profile, I get a window with the list of lens profiles available. This window is mouse scrollable.

In Lightroom Classic CC the window that appears is not scrollable, I have only just realised that I have to use the arrows to get the parts of the list that are not visible. There is actually no problem.

I apologise again for wasting everyone's time. I think I probably need some training!
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No worries. I'm happy you got it sorted.