Lightroom Classic: install - Default Plug-ins

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I never use some of the default plug-ins. In particular, the Nikon, Facebook & Flickr ones.

Every time there is an upgrade, I have to remove these plug-ins. Next time there is an upgrade, sure enough, they are back. I do understand that many users will use Flickr & Facebook, but most Canon users will not use the Nikon tether plug-in and vice versa. I seem to recall that there was previously a Leica plug-in as well.

Could the install not check if these plug-ins exist in the current install. If not, they have obviously been removed/disabled by deliberate action so it would be safe to not install them on the current upgrade.

Little point, but irritating
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The most efficient is to designate the plugins that you frequently use as Favorit.

Klick right and select Add to Favorites and the The Favorites group is on the top of the list of the presets.
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Aperture Importer not needed so many times, I want to remove from list too.
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Simply disabled the unwanted plugins in the Plug-in Manager box.
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It really goes without saying that I have disabled the unwanted plug-ins. I also go further than that and delete the relevant files.

But the point is - many/most people would like a customised set-up. I go beyond that and say I like a clean set-up. Superfluous items should not be visible.

Adobe recognise this by allowing for example the Toolbar to be customised. Windows can be hidden etc.

Extra Plug-ins complicate the screen and menus. Keeping it clean and simple makes for efficiency.
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I'm not sure I understand the problem. How are Canon users bothered by the Nikon tether plugin?
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What I said was " ... most Canon users will not use the Nikon tether plug-in and vice versa .... ".

Is that not true?
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Of course it is true, but why would that mean that Canon users need to remove or disable the plugin? I am a Canon user and the Nikon plugin is activated and running on my system. It doesn't show in any menu, so it doesn't bother me at all. And if it did I could simply disable it. So why does it bother you?
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I didn't say anyone needed to remove or disable! But from a usability point of view the situation could be improved in my opinion. After all we can customise other parts. Do you have a problem with that?

Its a request for an issue that I would like considered by Adobe. You don't agree. Where's the problem?
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Sorry, but I still don't understand your point. In fact, I understand it even less now. If you don't say that a Canon user should remove or disable the Nikon tether plugin, then what do you say? What do you suggest that I should do as a Canon user to make Lightroom more usable for me?

Mind you; I do understand that people who don't use Facebook might disable the Facebook plugin so it does not show among the publishing services. And I do understand that people who will never import an Aperture library might disable that plugin so it does not show in the Plugin Extras menu. If updating Lightroom will activate those plugins again (I don't know if it does), then I agree that this should not happen. 

But I really don't understand the point about the tether plugins. These are 'headless' plugins, meaning they are completely invisible as long you don't use them.
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The point is.

I want to disable the Nikon and Canon Plugins. I happen to use Canon, but I never tether. I don't need them and for my own personal preference, I want them hidden from sight. I wouldn't dream of suggesting other users SHOULD disable them. That is their choice as is all customisation.

As you say the tether ones do not appear in my Library>Plug-In menu. But they do appear in the Plug-in Manager. 

I like clean and simple. 


I'm all for simplyfing menus where possible. That's all I'd like Adobe to look at. You have a different viewpoint.
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Wow, that is indeed major. They appear in the plugin manager!

Do you honestly suggest that Adobe should spend time on this? Time that cannot be spent on the many real problems that Lightroom has?

Yes, I do indeed have a different viewpoint. I think Adobe should spend their time on things that matter, like solving the many bugs that riddle Lightroom.
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As you probably well know, Adobe have teams that work on major tasks, and they also have their JIT teams (or whatever they are now called) that work on the smaller/ simpler issues.

So no it is not a major issue, yes it may be something that the smaller teams can work on. 

One assumes that when training their programmers they have to start on small tasks. Or would you prefer that every new start is immediately placed on to mission critical projects.

I am sorry if I offend your far superior knowledge and understanding. Perhaps some sympathy with an ordinary user instead of superior sarcasm might  be something you should consider!

This conversation is now ended. Obviously Adobe will not consider it as it is not worthy of your time!

 
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No, I don't think Adobe has special JDI teams. I think that's a myth. That would be very ineffective, because that would mean such a team would have to know every line of the code of the entire application. They have teams for different parts of the application, and these teams are responsible for the major issues and these 'just do it' tasks. So any time they waste on a request like this, they can't use for more important things.

How many times do you open the Plugin Manager anyway? Once a month? Probably less...
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Plug in manager dialogue size is limited.

I feel frustrated does not use/ non important plugin for me

exists top of the lists , need scroll down to most usable plugin.

So, Disabled plug-ins are flayed out is insufficient,move order to end of plug in list, Now It seems best way.
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