Keyword management in Bridge needs a serious overhaul

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The more I work with Bridge's keywords, the more frustrated I get with them. It's painful and it's tedious to really tag all of your images comprehensively. It takes way too long, and is way too fiddly. I'm still on CS5, and with Adobe's newly minted upgrade policies and am likely to be for a while until there are some improvements that I seriously need rather than just would like, and can justify the cost of.

- First suggestion: Since the keywords aren't appended to the metadata in a tree-like structure anyway (by which I mean that only the keywords that you apply appear in the photo's metadata, not the parents of those keywords unless you elect to add them as well, unless that's hidden somewhere), why not completely divorce the keyword tree from the keywords in an image? What I mean is this. I may have a hierarchy like Places (actually 001_Places, since I have no control over keyword node sorting, another gripe) -> Tasmania -> Hobart -> The Jam Factory. Later on I think that the Jam Factory should go under a further sub-grouping like Waterfront. So I insert that sub-grouping in the keywords tree and drag The Jam Factory under it. All well and good except that if I go back and look at any images which were ALREADY tagged with "The Jam Factory" they DON'T appear with the new location checked, instead they appear as some italicised ghost keyword located where the keyword originally was before I moved it. Since that tree location isn't part of the photo's metadata I imagine that this is somewhere in Bridge's cache. That means that the keyword hierarchy that you create is either cast in iron, OR you accept that it'll be cluttered with garbage entries from keywords that you've previously moved elsewhere, OR you have to go through and re-tag all of the images with the current location of the keywords. In the circumstances, and I know that there would be a speed penalty for doing this, I'd rather that Bridge just read the keywords from the photo and check the boxes in the keywords tree as it goes along. ALL of the boxes. So if I have the word, say, "Ocean" under multiple nodes, then check them all. Which brings me to...

- Second Suggestion: Keyword groups. I'd like to be able to take a bunch of keywords which are commonly found together and be able to apply them in a single whack. For example, Beach could be grouped with Ocean, Sand, Rocks, Waves. I can already do that with an Append Metadata template you say? No. What I CAN'T do is DESELECT the items in the group that don't apply to that particular group of shots. For example I may be at a beach, but it's a rocky beach. No sand. Deselect, apply the rest of the group. I'd also kike to be able to assign keyword groups to a single keyword, so that if I check Bondi as a keyword, for example, then I have the option of applying the keyword group that relates to that location; in this case the Beach group.

- Similarly I would like to be able to have a dialog showing me ONLY the keywords that are applied to the selected image(s) so that I can deselect the ones that don't apply.

- Fourth suggestion; same as the one in http://feedback.photoshop.com/photosh.... In the second decade of the 21st century I really can't see why there is no option for filtering the keywords down by typing part of them into a text box allowing you to get to the ones that you need.

- Fifth, labels. Great that you can change the label, not great that you can't change the shortcut key that goes with each colour.

I'm sure that there are more but the above are the main reasons that it takes me a ridiculously long time to tag my shots. I love Photoshop but Bridge is a bit too much like the slow witted cousin who tags along behind the cool kid.
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Mal Reynolds

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Definitely the first suggestion, as a priority, please and thank you! It's still a mess and frustrating that this happens when we spend so much time building and organising a keyword hierarchy.