Lightroom: Keyword autocomplete does not work for parent keywords (Win XP)

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I recently got a new computer and have begun to use Lightroom on my new machine, but the keyword autocomplete does not seem to work correctly. On my old box, I could type "Ford > Car" to add the keyword "Ford" as child of "Car". As I began typing the "Car" portion, Lightroom would autocomplete the keyword, as it already exists. On my new machine, it does not do that. Lightroom will autocomplete a standard tag just fine, but if I try to add a parent tag, there will be no autocomplete for that tag.

Any suggestions? Is there some setting I have missed?

Thanks
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I was unable to reproduce this problem, i.e. auto-complete for parent keywords seemed to be working as expected (we're talking about the one-line keyword entry box below the multi-line keywords box, in the Keywording section of library right-hand panel, right?).

Lr3.4 win7/64
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Yes, I am using the one-line keyword entry box. It worked fine on Lr 3.3 winXP, and has been broken since I started using my win7/64 machine, on both Lr 3.3 and 3.4.
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Huh. I don't deny you are experiencing a problem, but I do find it strange that I can't reproduce the problem on like machine. That's gotta beg some kinda question, although I'm not sure what...
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It is very odd, I cannot imagine what could be causing a problem. I have had this problem since I installed Lightroom, which was right after a clean install of Windows.
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Just now I've observed that autocomplete of the parent tag only works when the child tag occurs under more than one parent. For example, consider this hierarchy:

Car
....Ford
President
....Ford
....Lincoln

LR 3.4 autocompletes "President" when I type "Ford > P" but not when I type "Lincoln > P".
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Yes, that works fine for me. Unfortunately, this does not help, though, as when I am typing in a parent tag, it is because I am creating a new tag and I am telling Lightroom what it should go under, not because it is an existing tag.
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+1 for this issue. autocompletion of existing parent keywords was a quick and easy way to nest keywords but now that I have to type out the full parent, the chances for mistakenly creating new parent keywords is now introduced!

It worked great in LR2. Please put the feature back into LR3.
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Hello,

This is not a bug, but it doesn't function as you expect. The thing is that this is not an auto-complete as it seems to be. As you start typing, it is not looking at the list of all your keywords and their available children to make suggestions. Instead, it is a list of recently typed keywords. So if you have ever in the past typed in the parent/child keyword pair, then it will appear on the list as you start typing. This works the same as a web browser and your browsing history. As you start typing in the URL, it will "auto-complete" the rest of the address if you have visited it recently.
This is controlled through the Catalog Settings. Go to the Edit (Windows) or Lightroom (Mac) menu and choose Catalog Settings. Go to the Metadata tab. You can turn off this “auto-complete” by unchecking “Offer suggestions from recently entered values”. You can also clear your history (like clearing your web browser history) by clicking the “Clear All Suggestion Lists”. Then nothing will auto-complete, not even parent keywords, until you type them in again at least once.

-Brett
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In that case, perhaps we need a feature request in, because auto-completing from the keyword list would surely make auto-complete a much more useful tool?
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I'd like to elaborate on Prattmic's original request to change LR's autocomplete behavior:

As discussed in the parallel forum thread, we’ve established that LR 3.4 always autocompletes a keyword's leaf name. But it will only autocomplete the parent name if the leaf name is not unique. For example, if the user types xxx > A, the parent name starting with A will only be autocompleted if "xxx" exists under more than one parent.

It would be good to always autocomplete the parent name, regardless of whether the leaf name is unique:

- When entering a new keyword in a large hierarchy, autocompleting the parent will help ensure that the new keyword is created in the correct parent and that there is no misspelling. As it stands now, if the user types a non-existent parent, LR will silently create it.

- When entering an existing keyword in a large hierarchy, the user wants confirmation that they've selected the right part of the hierarchy. As it stands now, the user isn't given any feedback on the actual parent of an autocompleted keyword, and she may end up selecting an existing keyword in the wrong part of the hierarchy.

LR could use the following rules for autocomplete choices:

- Always include the parents if the leaf is not unique (current rule).

- Always autocomplete the parents if the user has typed ">" (new rule).

See the parallel forum thread:

http://forums.adobe.com/thread/855030...
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Well, I guess I just would like to have the behaviour of 3.3 back, nothing more nothing less because this worked as expected...
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you are absolutely right