Keyword Search features lacking

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In 'Old' Lightroom, it was possible to chain Keyword searches so it was easy to find the 10 photos of my 20,000 photo library that contained both my wife an I and were taken in San Francisco.  In Lightroom CC, I can search on multiple keywords:    My wife, myself, and SanFarncisco and the result is about 5,000 photos to search through.  This is not progress or satisfactory.  Please include the same keyword search capabilities as 'Old' Lightroom had.  Honestly Guys, much cooperative effort with customers through 6 editions of 'old' Lightroom produced a reasonably polished product.  Are you really going to force us to develop a beta product from scratch?  What happened to the Adobe developers who worked with users through the 6 editions of 'old' Lightroom?
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You should be able to do an AND search on multiple keywords in LRCC by typing them in the search field, or an OR search by checking them in the Keywords pop-up. That's not getting you the result you're after?

And you'll be pleased to know many of the long-standing developers are working on LRCC. They are starting again to some degree, because photography's changed a lot in the last 10 years, and it's a great opportunity to build the app for the next 10 years. LRCC isn't intended to replace LRClassic though (although they've done a terrible job of communicating that). This is a different tool for a different audience.
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Awesome, awesome, awesome.  Victoria, the "and" and "or" keyword search has me very close to moving my complete catalogue to CC.  I've been putting new photos in CC since it was released.  Not having smart collections (albums) was holding me back. Although not smart collections this may be enough until they arrive!
Thanks so much for this tip!!
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No - neither approach gets the results I'm after as described in my comment.

If LR CC is a different tool for a different audience, why is their developed product  for professionals and serious amateurs  (i.e. LR 6) being phased out ?
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Perpetual licenses are being phased out, but Lightroom-as-we-know-it is still alive and kicking. It got rebranded as Lightroom Classic, as they're splitting development in two different directions - cloud vs classic desktop based. They've said Classic is not going anywhere and is continuing to be developed for the foreseeable future. Words are cheap, of course, but Lightroom has a HUGE audience, most of whom will not want to move to Lightroom CC anytime soon (if ever), and since Adobe rather likes profits, they'd be stupid to abandon all those paying customers. End result - if CC doesn't have the tools you need, feature requests are great, but you can also safely stick with Lightroom Classic.
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Thanks Victoria.  I am so confused.  I have been a Lightroom user from the beginning.  I had Lightroom 6 installed, but was tricked into converting it to Lightroom CC.  I understood that there would be no Lightroom 7.  What is the relationship between Lightroom 6 and Lightroom Classic?  Are they the same products in terms of features?  What is the relationship between Lightroom Mobile and Lightroom CC?  Is Adobe committed to future developments of their professional product and inclusion of new features within Lightroom Classic?  Is there a licensing model for just Classic without Mobile or Lightroom CC?

Adobe has been haranguing us to convert to their new licensing scheme for a long time now.  To make that desirable, they have promoted the Cloud concept, but being able to share only part of your library and none of your catalog with remote editing of only enhanced thumbnails made no sense. to me.  The introduction of the new Lightroom CC, with the ability to host my entire library plus my catalog and to truly edit photos across multiple devices was a breakthrough in my opinion and prompted me to finally take the plunge.  I am totally disappointed however with the lacking functionality of Lightroom CC and it sounds like waiting for it to improve my be futile.  So it looks like I either have to go to Lightroom Classic (if that will be the professional product with commitment to ongoing development) or say goodbye to Adobe and find another product altogether.  Can you please shed some light on this for me?
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Yeah, the rebranding is confusing. Try this summary for a little more clarity: https://www.lightroomqueen.com/the-future-of-lightroom/

Basically, Lightroom Classic IS Lightroom 7, just with a new name. But it's only available on subscription, not the old perpetual license.

Lightroom Classic is focusing on improving the desktop workflow we've used for the last 10 years. Lightroom Classic still has all the old features. The new Lightroom CC is a brand new app focusing on improving a cloud-based workflow, and because it's so new, it's currently short on features. It'll grow quickly, but probably won't gain every single feature. 

Lightroom mobile, as a cloud-related app, was rebranded Lightroom CC. It still syncs with Lightroom Classic, as it has for the last few years, but the gap will widen as they each focus on their own direction (cloudy for CC vs desktop for Classic).

So in short, if you were using Lightroom 6 and you don't need cloud sync, Lightroom Classic is the tool you want. If you want cloud sync, right now the choices are either:
  • use the currently-more-basic Lightroom CC app on all devices and be patient for a bit
  • use Lightroom Classic on your main computer and sync that with LRCC on other devices, with the understanding that LR Classic doesn't upload originals to the cloud (just smart previews), and some features don't sync (e.g. keywords don't sync to/from Classic, and neither do stacks, or collection hierarchies, or a few other minor bits).
It's a little messy at the moment if you want the best of both worlds, but that should level out, given a little time.

Does that make more sense?
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Thanks again Victoria - finally getting the idea.  Cancelled my LR CC plan and purchased the basic Photography Plan.  This gives me Classic where I can edit, organize and search as before, plus LR CC 2017 where I can keep an eye on how this product develops without a case of heartburn.