Lightroom: Keywords don't sync between CC and Classic

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Keywords do not sync correctly: When added on the mobile app (iOS), they do not appear in LR classic and not in LR Web (I deleted the new LR CC immediately, this version does not make sense to me).
Same problem into the other direction: Keywords from LR classic do not appear on the mobile app. 
Attention: At this stage the whole keywording within the iOS app should not be used!
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This is a known limitation. Keywords do not sync between Lightroom Classic and the cloud.
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Yes, I agree with everything mentioned. I am highly content with the capabilities of LR Classic.   The only drawback is that you need a notebook if you want to catalogue and edit photos while travelling. And I was real happy after Adobe announced a LR mobile. For me the main reason to work with LR CC (mobile) would be as a companion to LR Classic while travelling light. And I would gladly upgrade my Adobe plan to 1TB cloud storage if keywords entered in LR CC (mobile) would synchronize with LR Classic (if there is just a flat keyword hierarchy available in LR CC mobile, so be it for the time being) AND if there is a decent and acceptable way to add keywords in LR CC mobile (which is definitely not the case right now, what is offered is a cruel joke).

 

Without the above-mentioned features there is absolutely no reason for me to upgrade my Adobe plan. I have all of my photos of the last 45 years catalogued in LR Classic and there is absolutely no need to access them from every device (MacBook’s, iPads, iPhones etc.) I own. But if it comes to the couple of actual photographic projects I am working at a time access from a variety of devices would be of great help.

 

In my humble opinion Adobe is missing on a great business opportunity. The only reason for staying with Adobe right now is that there is no real alternative in the market (meaning: nobody offers a decent environment where you can catalogue and edit your pictures on an iPad while travelling and have all data synchronized to a Laptop afterwards). If this would change in the future Adobe might rethink their position .....

 

And please remember: this is written by someone who loves his Adobe products!

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"Do you know if there is a document anywhere which describes the features in LR Classic that do not exist in the desktop CC implementation?"

Last updated November 5, 2018 so pretty current and informative. Keep in mind this is a moving target and it's expected Adobe will add more features currently in LR Classic to CC Desktop, Mobile, and Web apps.

https://www.lightroomqueen.com/lightroom-cc-vs-classic-features/
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@Patrick, you don't want to use a synchronized catalog, simply create a small catalog for your mobile computer and at the end of the trip import that into the master catalog on your desktop...
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Jerry,

You say "I'm not so sure if this is true because they are continuously adding new features to Classic. "

Most all the significant features they add to Classic are in the develop module.  The fact that these get added to classic is because they are part of ACR (Adobe Camera Raw) which is the code base used by Photoshop as well as LR Classic on the standard computer side and LR CC and Photoshop Mobile on the portable side.  In other words they only have to code it once and it becomes available in all the systems.  then for each platform they just need to add the slider or button to invoke to the code.

Dan
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I would disagree. Many of the new features introduced are outside of Develop. Even if you just look at Develop features, most of them are introduced first in Classic and you need to wait another release cycle for them to appear in CC. If you look at the last two releases for example, almost none of the new features apply to CC: https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom/help/whats-new.html. Compare that to https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom-cc/using/whats-new.html and you'll see.
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John and Johan, looks like you have insider information. Ok, then the whole keyword sync is useless. Shame on Adobe Software Engineering :-)
I am an Engineer by myself and know how difficult such a sync mechanismn is. Let us hope the best that they change their minds and implement it later.
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I also think this syncing issue is a big let down. I was hoping to give keywords also in Lightroom cc and Lightroom web and they sync to LR classic
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Have tested the sync of caption/subtitle and it working fine. You can change it in Web, LR Mobile or LR Classic and sync is done in each direction.
This gives me hope that Adobe is fixing the Keyword Sync. No Engineer is implementing caption sync and not keyword sync. Anyway, caption sync is working for me because I am doing all my keyword tagging with Photo Mechanics and fill caption field automatically with name of picture folder and keywords.
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"No Engineer is implementing caption sync and not keyword sync."

Don't bet on it, Peter.

If you consider it, caption sync is easier for the engineer - it's just reading/writing a photo's text entry. Each keyword is a separate entity, so syncing would need to loop through the keyword structure looking for matching items (note hierarchy is an issue) and then apply those keywords to the photo. So more difficult, but not rocket science - if the will is there.

PhotoMechanic, like Bridge, just uses xmp to store tags and other metadata, and LR simply reads that.
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Yes, it is easier, but Engineers love a challenge. But could be they were stopped by Marketing or Finance.
I am using Photo Mechanics for some years, because PM does not have a catalog. In LR Classic you can create a Smart Collection to find all picture with changed metadata by third party apps and then you can read all these updated meta data. This is useful if you do all your tagging in PM and want to have this info synced to LR mobile. Currently I am using Mylio for that, but my hope was to have all in LR. I am not giving up hope.
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As everything else is synchronised between LR Classic and Lightroom CC, It seems very surprising that there is no connection in both direction for keywords. I really hope that this problem will be solved very soon. It seems that many people are, as I am, waiting for that !Many thanks , Olivier
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it seems to be totally deliberate. And one champion explains no more information will ever be synchronize from Classic to the cloud.
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Right, according to Victoria Bampton (Lightroom Queen), who is pretty well-plugged-in to Adobe, "no new sync functionality will be added to Classic (so keywords and collection hierarchy won’t sync)." Of course, they might change this decision if they get enough feedback from customers.
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This thread is quite confusing.  Is there an Adobe document someplace that explains this in all its permutations? 

However, this may explain why some of my keyworded images from LR Classic show Keywords in LR/CC and some do not.  And, that explanation - according to this thread - is that some of my synced images have metadata written back to the image file and some don't - which is entirely possible.

I just took one of my CR2 RAW files which did not show any keywords in LR/CC and saved the metadata to an XMP file in LR Classic.  Indeed, the keywords did not appear in LR/CC desktop or LR Web.  However, an DNG image with saved metadata does show Keywords in both LR/CC Desktop and LR/CC Web but changes made to keywords in classic do not migrate to the cloud.

I think I need another computer to help me understand this logic which is quite inconsistent.  Given  Adobe's justification of no folders being "why should you care what folder something is in as long as you can find it:" - I'm surprised that they would give us a situation where you have to know the underlying file type in order to know how the system will work.  I'm hoping that is a bug and not a design feature. 
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It's a real shame, I have thousands of tags done in LR Classic - if I can't use them in CC this is pretty worthless for me. Any comments from Adobe??
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According to Victoria Bampton (Lightroom Queen), who is pretty well-plugged-in to Adobe, "no new sync functionality will be added to Classic (so keywords and collection hierarchy won’t sync)."
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So they want us to move away from Adobe. Sad.
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I just feel in the same way.
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Hi John, do you think Classic will be obsolet in some time? And is Adobe is implementing all Classic Feature into LR Mobile aka LR CC ?
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Leading questions! Though I have (strong) opinions on all this, I recommend reading Bampton's recent blog posts: https://www.lightroomqueen.com/blog/.  In my own opinion, Adobe has for several years pared back investment in desktop LR, putting in the bare minimum to maintain desktop LR's revenue stream.  I don't see that changing.
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It is disappointing to learn that keyword syncing with Lightroom Mobile only works with the less feature-rich Lightroom CC and not with Lightroom Classic CC. I hope Adobe reconsiders and adds that functionality to Classic. It should've been added at introduction of Mobile. 
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I understand one of the main reasons for this is that Adobe changed to a flat keyword hierarchy in Lightroom CC while Lightroom Classic has nested keywords (you know like Europe -> Iceland -> Reykjavik -> opera house). Lightroom CC cannot do any of that and likely will never gain this capability as apparently it is too hard for the typical user to use. Most of my keywords are hierarchical and I can't see a flat hierarchy working well for me.
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I have wasted many hours keywording images on Lightroom CC, only to find that they haven't synced back to Lightroom Classic CC. I was excited about Lightroom CC, as I thought it would be really useful for when I'm out on the road I would be able to do all my processing on my laptop, then sync everything back to my main editing machine when I got home. It sort of half works, which is disappointing.
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> you can enter keywords for smart previews in LR CC. LR CC knows these are originating from Lightroom Classic! 

That would certainly be a good way of distinguishing them, although I imagine some people would still try to add keywords to originals added directly to the mobile apps and wonder why the keywords aren't appearing in Classic.
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If I were a photographer that makes money off his photos then I would have sent an invoice for the time wasted on keywording in LR CC!
My Syncomatic plugin could recover some of that wasted time. Using LRCC, they could export copies of the images they were misled into keywording in Mobile or LRCC, then use the plugin in Lightroom "Classic" to sync the keywords from these temporary copies to the originals.

I sincerely wish I didn't have to suggest this workaround, and wish Adobe had put effort into implementing a proper mobile keywording solution.
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The features I'd miss from moving over to Lightroom CC full time are mainly around import and export:
  • Applying import preset
  • Applying metadata presets
  • Creating a second copy
  • Push collections
  • Export presets
  • KEYWORDING
That's before I get onto how much it would cost to have my whole archive in the cloud!

My way of working is that when I am on the road, I want to get my images processed, keyworded and uploaded as soon as possible. Then when I get back to base, I want them added into my main catalog.

When Lightroom CC was announced I was one of the few photographers who felt positive towards it - I thought I would be able to do away with my clunky workflow of creating and importing new catalogs each trip. However Adobe were ever so slightly off target - what could have been really helpful turns out to be not much use at all.

On my laptop I've got both CC to access the important pictures from my archive and Classic CC, to use my clunky workflow for new images.
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Isn’t that the other way around? Classic CC for the archive and CC for the botched cloud?
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Not when I’m on the road using my laptop. I only need Classic CC on my main workstation. Prior to Lightroom CC cloud I couldn’t take my archive on the road easily.
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Hey Adobe! That about the keyword sync fixing ?
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I fully agree with Kaffeesegler. I have been using Lightroom since LR1 and I am really fond of this software. Lightroom CC seems to me a huge step forward and I try to use it on my laptop for more than 2 months. However key-words are a serious issue. Compared to Lightroom Classic Lightroom CC handles key words very poorly and above all sync between LR Classic and LR CC doesn't really work for key words. For me this is a huge drawback and prevents me tu use LR CC efficiently on my laptop. I hope that Adobe will change his mind and reconsider key words in LR CC.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Keyword sync beetween Lightroom Classic and Mobile.

Good evening!
Should not keywords be synchronized between Lightroom Classic CC and Lightroom Mobile?
Those that I insert in the Mobile version should end in the Classic version and vice versa ...
I am wrong?
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I think Adobe is clear in how it looks at both. You and I may not like it, but their point of view is simple and clear. Lightroom Classic is the version for local use, not cloud synching. Yes, it does have a few synching options from the time that Lightroom CC was not yet around, and Adobe won't REMOVE those options now that Lightroom CC is available, but Lightroom Classic is not meant for cloud synching, period. If cloud synching is important to you, they want you to use Lightroom CC. As said, I don't like it either and I'm not defending it, just explaining why you can continue this thread forever without anything changing.
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Too bad LR Cc is does not respond to many photographers needs.
People will continue to request this feature because there is no reason for Adobe not to finish their work. It is clearly a marketing decision and not a technical limitation.
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this is all our logic, unfortunately the logic of Adobe works along some marketing decissions and not their customer needs, disappointing really.
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It's probably both technical and marketing. Lightroom CC only knows 'flat' keywords, Lightroom Classic has hierarchical keywords (meaning you could have two identical keywords in different hierarchies). That means that you can't simply sync them right now. Of course it should be possible to find a solution, so it's probably a marketing decision not to spend time and money on that.
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We can understand the logic. One is for standalone, the other is for cloud.
But how the hell because that if we want the cloud, we need to leave all what perfectly make Lightroom functionalities be Lightroom.
I think LR CC is now a 24 month old program development and such basic feature are not implemented!
They have to hire some Indians cheap and competent team and we will have all this feature in months.
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Have converted / filled my keywords to others fields which are synched, but the VERY BAD thing is that without an online connection I cannot search for pictures in LR CC mobile. Imagine you want to show pictures to friends and you cannot find , because Adobe are not allowing and offline search. Very disappointing. And I pay monthly for this software.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Lightroom CC/Classic: Keywords not updated; syncing problematic.

I tried using the new LR CC on my desktop, together with LR Classic CC.  I found the latter to be similar to CC for Web, with some additions.  Syncing worked fine if, for instance, I added a star rating to one of my photos, removed it from an album, or stopped syncing a specific album.  Right away, the changes would propagate to LR CC and CC for Web.

However, the same could not be said for keywords (which, of course, are only relevant to LR CC, but not CC for Web).  First off, I discovered that LR CC was only picking up keywords that had been written as metadata to disk.  That means that before syncing a collection from LR Classic, I needed to save metadata to file.  If I had already synced the collection and then saved the metadata, the changes were not picked up by LR CC.  Even if I quit and restarted the program, the metadata was not reloaded.  And that's despite the fact that LR Classic would immediately sync the file anew whenever I saved the metadata to file.  

The only way I could get LR CC to re-read the metadata was to first stop syncing the collection from within LR Classic, then to delete all the individual photos from the "All Photos" view within LR CC, and then to sync the collection again.

(Incidentally, related to this is the issue of how to control which keywords are written to file.  I had indicated not to export certain keywords, yet those were still saved as metadata and picked up by LR CC.  And even this behavior was not consistent.  Certain higher-level keywords appear to have been applied to some photos but not others within the same album.)

Another issue is that there doesn't seem to be a way to edit keywords.  At some point, I had corrected the spelling for someone's name keyword on LR Classic.  The earlier spelling seems to have been saved to metadata, because when I synced a photo of the person, LR CC had a keyword for each spelling.  I could remove the incorrect keyword from the individual photo, but there didn't seem to be a way to do this across the whole system.
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Same as Lewis if you are a pro and run a website do not bother with CC. CC is a fun addition to Classic at best to do some minor editing on a mobile device from the couch and to shoot raw on your phone and have them sync automatically to your desktop in Classic. It is not a full-fledged solution. It might turn into one in the far future but isn't near one yet. It is only near if you only live online and have only very minor online sharing needs. 

To answer 1 by 1:
1 - they told you wrong in your training. You can sync from Classic to CC. The only limitation is that it only syncs smart previews and not the full raw files. The smart previews are more than enough to edit and caption/title on your mobile device. Moreover, the advantage of this is that this allows you to selectively sync as in Classic you have to mark what you want to sync. CC cannot selectively sync. It always syncs everything. With the Classic syncing method, you can even after the fact upload the same raw files in CC and they will get automatically linked giving you the full raw online.

2 and 3 - stars sync back and forth to Classic as you found. Keywords don't. CC has a flat keyword hierarchy and Classic supports nested hierarchies (e.g. California -> San Francisco -> Bay Bridge). I prefer the nested variant to be able to distinguish Crater Lake Oregon from Crater Lake Colorado. That is not possible in CC. There is a way to sync keywords from Classic to CC if you have already fully keyworded in Classic before you set the image to sync with CC. Best advice -> don't bother keywording in CC.

4 - titles and captions sync so it doesn't matter where you do this.

5 - This is exactly why you should always import in Classic as it can be setup to automatically add all your identifying metadata to all your images on import with a metadata preset. An essential feature not available in CC.

6 - It is possible to export simple watermarks on images from CC, but only from the mobile version. Indeed watermarking is full fledged on Classic and virtually non-existent in CC.

7 - Make sure you have embedded metadata with your copyright and use watermarks on exported images is basically the only thing you can do. These are both possible on Classic and not possible or very hard in CC.

website: Don't bother with CC. it is only useful for using with the lightroom web stuff which is easy but not scalable and not useful for anybody doing pro work. If you do anything else for web services (smug mug, zenfolio, etc.) you are lightyears better off with Classic and using publish services. It is possible to make it work but not without jumping through many hoops.

The bottom line is that CC is fun and OK as a companion to Classic to do some light edits on a tablet or to ingest images on the road that then automatically sync down to your main catalog. It is actually quite great for this. Keywording is not well done so don't bother trying to do that in CC. I would advice anybody wanting to do more than share one or two images online to use Classic as their main platform. CC is just still extremely far from being a realistic solution for even moderate photographic needs. Editing images is great and full-fledged. It's great that it syncs everywhere but just misses basically every other feature.
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Bravo! Over my 50 years in computer system development, marketing, and sales I've seen this happen numerous times! It's a hallmark shift from Engineering focused product development to a fully Marketing driven model.

The current Classic & CC product models target two different groups (experienced desktop and casual mobile users). In my opinion there's no way to satisfy both groups with the one CC product. By allowing the "compatibility gap" to widen between Classic and CC Adobe are burning the bridge to maintaining pro and serious user market share. It's a paradigm shift toward focus on easier to use "creativeproducts" with Ai and mobile focused GUI.

I understand Adobe's desire to capture the untapped mobile user market. However, throwing the baby out with the bathwater is totally unnecessary in my opinion. It's not too late for Adobe to "fix" this situation. I fact if Adobe had taken additional steps to maintain compatibility between the two products this wouldn't even be necessary. Unfortunately, Adobe has stated no new mobile features will be added to LR Classic so the direction is pretty clear!
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Thank you, Todd!
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@Jao van de Lagemaat, thank you for the detailed breakdown,  it is so helpful! I really appreciate it, this helps clarify things so much!  Can you explain further your statement in #1 - " With the Classic syncing method, you can even after the fact upload the same raw files in CC and they will get automatically linked giving you the full raw online." If I want to back up all my photos online through Lightroom CC at full resolution, and I mainly use Lightroom Classic, what is the best way to do that?

@Lewis Craik thank you for your input and for the info on the plug-in for Lightroom all of these tips will make the process so much easier! Todd Shaner thank you as well.
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Jileen, there are two ways to do what you want:
  1. First and fastest even though it is more steps is to import through Classic setting the new imports to sync. This will upload smart previews of the images to the cloud. If this is done, then open up Lightroom CC on your desktop and import the same images. Lightroom CC will sync the full raw images to the cloud and link them to the smart previews already there so you won't get duplication doing this.
  2. Simplest but by far the slowest is to ONLY import the images in Lightroom CC. They will sync up to the cloud and then download to Lightroom Classic. The advantage of this method is that it is simple. The disadvantage is that it is really slow as you have to upload the images to the cloud first and then download them (that's all automatic of course but still will take a while even on fast connections) before you can start using them in Classic. That is why method 1 is best.
P.S. all this could have been avoided if Adobe would simply add full raw sync capability to Classic. I started a thread here years ago on that (see link below). Please plus it even though this boat has long sailed unfortunately: https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/lightroom-classic-should-be-able-to-sync-full...
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This is certainly a disappointing limitation. But what's especially disappointing is that it's entirely unexpected (since all other fields are synchronized), and there's no communication in the product that this field won't be synchronized.

At minimum, I'd recommend adding a warning to the user the first time they try to edit keywords on a collection synchronized with Lightroom Classic; that would avoid a lot of frustration and confusion as users attempt to troubleshoot why keywords aren't synchronizing (even though everything else is). 

In my case, I spent an hour troubleshooting this before looking online—and realizing that it was "by design".
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For what it's worth, I've added a feature suggestion to at least warn users that keyword syncing isn't supported. I'd much rather see full keyword syncing, but if that's not realistic then users need to be aware of the limitation 
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Nah, Adobe needs to tackle this HUGE omission! It’s syncing goddamn strings, not rocket science!
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I agree that it's a huge omission, and I want to see it rectified, but while they look like strings in the UI, I believe the internal implementation is much more complex (in order to support hierarchies and global keyword renaming, etc.).
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For me one of the most valuable cloud integrations would be synchronized keywords between the Lightroom Classic CC infrastructure and Lightroom CC - because I like to use my tablet at home on the garden deck or sofa to surf the web and then, when I feel like it, I would like to use it to add keywords to images that still didn't get any. So I am forced to sit in a stuffy edge of my workspace which I have set up to have little outside light (so that I get the benefit of correct image display on my main screen) and work on those tags. It really should have been there years ago.

Oh, and I would like to be able to search through my synchronized collections in Lightroom CC - I sometimes do in promptu presentations of some of my images, I would really like to be able to get all my images of say a specific butterfly to show the best of them to someone who asked - currently I have to remember in which collection and approximately where in that collection I may have one of these images.

The lack of these keyword functions currently is one of the biggest omissions in the whole of the Adobe Cloud...
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Hallo Karl Günter, the missing keyword sync from LR Classic to LR Mobile is one issue, but a much bigger issue is that you cannot search existing keywords when there is no internet connection. Imagine you sit in a beer garden and want to show pictures and it is not possible. Or sitting in the airplane and want to search a picture, again, not possible. OK, the new advanced autodetect scenes need internet, but there are still normal keywords and descriptions. In addition of that, the preview of pictures has issues in offline mode as well. You see only a black preview for many pictures. As son the internet connection is back all these black previews appear immediately. LR Mobile is no longer usable in such situations. OK, Adobe is adding more an more features and I love to see that, but I need the offline functionality as well.
Let us hope the best
Peter
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@Peter: It may be worth creating a new feature request for offline search to cover that scenario. There is another post regarding search capabilities, but it doesn't seem specific to the offline scenario.
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Thank Jeremy,
do you see this offline search issue as well? You just need to switch on Airplane mode and try a search.
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@Peter: I do, yes. 
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Hi Jeremy, have posted a feature request for the search issue and a problem request for the black picture issue. Keep fingers crossed :-)
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I too naively assumed that Keywords entered in Lightroom on my iPad would sync back to theClassic version on my Mac. Having done so for many hundreds of photos on my last trip I now find I have to do the work all over again. Frankly the split of Lightroom into various iterations is confusing and not helped by Adobe failing to make the limitation clear in anything easily accessible to the normal user. 
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You haven’t been naive assuming the keywords should sync. Everything editable in LR should sync. And there isn’t even a warning text box!
There is absolutely no excuse for such a huge bug.
The “technical” explanations consisting of keywords type is totall bullshit.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Lightroom: Keywords created in LR Classic do NOT sync with Lightroom CC.

keywords created in LR Classic do NOT sync with Lightroom CC
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Please, Adobe, implement keyword sync between Classic and Mobile: this is a critical feature for searching and selecting images in Mobile. Sensei search is great, but it cannot cover abstract keywords that describe all sorts of non-visual aspects in images.
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Sync is not the only critical missing feature. But case sensitive keyword is useless. List of keyword in CC should be implemented. Add keyword in multiple photos in iOS should be a  etc etc
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Please Conform Commenting and Keywords across Lightroom Classic and CC.

I need my clients to be able to add Comments and have the keywords they add in Lightroom CC computer version to sync with the hosted Lightroom Classic Catalog. 
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No, keywords which are added in Lightroom CC to photos imported in Lightroom CC do not sync back to Lightroom Classic either.
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Karl, you might be thinking of somewhat different special case: When a photo in LR Classic is first synced with LR CC, any keywords previously assigned in LR Classic get copied into LR CC, provided that the keywords had been written into the file's metadata (using the LR Classic command Metadata > Save Metadata To File or the option Catalog Settings > Automatically Write Changes Into XMP).

But in general, once a photo has been initially synced between LR CC and LR Classic, any subsequent changes to keywords in LR CC don't get synced to LR Classic, and vice versa.
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Karl Günter Wünsch

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That makes the break even worse - keywording is one of the things I really like to be able to do in Lightroom CC as is searching for images with a certain keyword to present them or select among similar images. For serious editing Lightroom CC is all but useless on mobile devices like an iPad for me...
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provided that the keywords had been written into the file's metadata (using the LR Classic command Metadata > Save Metadata To File or the option Catalog Settings > Automatically Write Changes Into XMP).
and provided that you have not generated smart previews for those photos before saving metadata to file. This is because the sync process always tries to upload any existing smart preview rather than generate a new one, so if you generate them before saving metadata to file they won't have the keywords baked in. So it's a "special case" with numerous caveats.

I think many of us feel let down by Adobe's failure to implement some kind of mobile keywording that can be used with Classic.
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Not syncing keywords is probably the most silly decision in Lightroom CC that Adobe has made. CC is perfect for taking you Classic Catalogue Pictures with you on the road on a smaller device, so that you can cull through photos (which works fine) and tag them (which is not possible at all if you want to continue in Classic later).
Please Adobe have mercy on everybody an sync keywords across these platforms! And if you decide to do so, please include the Sensei-Data as well (I recently found out that they are included in the Sync-Protocoll which can be downloaded in Lightroom Classic), so it should not be that difficult).
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When I read those really interesting comment, I find crazy Adobe does not takes in account our requests. 
The most we use classic or LR, the most we discover missing feature.

I would like to know if it is deliberate or not. 

It make me thing we are paying a whole 24 bucks a month for a beta software. in fact we are paying the development of the software but our voice is not take in account,

Thats unfair from adobe.
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Michel, I totally understand the legal obligations. But I'm not convinced a roadmap cannot be communicated for those reasons. Many camera manufacturers, for example, communicate on their lens roadmap. How is that different? Why could a software company nota roadmap?

Karl, as there is no other explanation as "this is technically impossible" or "this is by design"; don't blame us for speculation about reason behind those explanations.

Furthermore, maybe the number of replies to this thread will change the "answered" status of this thread.
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> Furthermore, maybe the number of replies to this thread will change the "answered" status of this thread.

It started out as a question, which was answered. However I have changed it to a feature request, just on the vaguest of off chances that thousands of votes might change Adobe's decision. 
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Antoine,
The general roadmap is disclosed in official statements that everybody can read and comment. My quote about "a train possibly hiding another"means that legal obligations may be handy to hide marketing preferences or decisions...
I agree with Karl Günter that it would be better to discuss the matter in another discussion. However, your question is not only why Adobe does not communicate better, it's about the future of the CC and Classic versions and a critical issue in the present stage: sharing keywords.
To be blunt, Adobe is not hiding anything. They are ready to change direction depending on many factors, including the ability of their teams to solve the keywords aspect. The roadmap probably has several options. Nobody will comment about this prematurely, especially in this technical forum.

If we stay on the keywords topic, I am very interested even though I don't user either LR version (only Elements) for my personal needs, Adobe gives me the suscription only to help Elements users to compare and choose the best solution. Today, there is no possible direct connection between Elements and Photoshop CC. You need to convert catalogs via the Classic version. You can't sync your catalogs, you can't use PSE as an external editor. The 1TB subscription offer for CC would seem interesting, but syncing and organizing features of the organizer are missing.

What is striking is that the current version of the organizer already offers user friendly and advanced features both in text search or visual recognition. You can create a visual multicriteria search combining keywords, people, places, albums, substrings in captions and much more. Just like a Google search. And its new smart tagging to search by any work like 'tree', 'automn', 'guitar'... those are features people are expecting to be still faster within a Cloud service than locally in a 'consumer grade' app like PSE.

My personal opinion is that the final course followed by Adobe will highly depend on the ability to solve the technical keywords syncing issues discussed here. They may have a 'Plan B'.
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Come on Adobe, it can't be that hard to get the keywords to synchronize! Yet another update and no show!
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Thanks for insisting, Karl! Maybe one day... ;-)
If I have'nt switched to darktable, On1 or DxO before :) ;-)