Photoshop: Adjustable grid size for the warp tool

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So much pseudo intelectualizing here. It's pathetic. So many features have been added over the years and you're telling us now that adding a simple option that allows us to add more columns and rows to the warp tool grid is somehow beyond Adobe's scope. That it somehow takes up too much resources and it's not something people want? That must be the biggest joke of all time in the history of photoshop. There must be some other reason, political or god knows what. Otherwise it just makes Adobe look like a pack of pathetic bumbling ogres.
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Do you really think that it makes no noticeable difference whether an operation can operate on the basis of a fixed number of parameters or on the basis of a varying (and potentially much huger) number of parameters? 

I would assume that the issue is naturally not beyond the Photoshop programmers’ capabilities but the demand does not not seem overwhelming at current.
I suppose 39 votes is not bad on this Forum but still a ways off from impressive.  
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Sometimes users don't know they need a tool until they're able to actually use it... 
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Hey anyone Adobe - any thoughts on this? I was just playing around with PhotoLine's distort with arrows feature and its a very similar to my idea of having a way to transform an image using Bezier path tools. It's not done very well in PhotoLine (or else I'd just use that for warping) but if you could have a function like Liquify but instead use Bezier curves to transform an image that would be really powerful. Also having the save/load mesh capability would be essential to recreate the transformations. Again Puppet Warp has the tiniest idea of this but its done so poorly and it is seemingly a forgotten tool at this point. I am looking at this from an architectural image point of view - to make interiors look less distorted from wide angle images. 
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Photoshop: Please add customizable number of control points to Transform Warp.

Yes the request was made 6 years ago, multiple threads were combined into this one.
Not one response from an Adobe representative.
I'd be happy to share any thoughts if it helps get this some attention. Basically transform warp needs a customizable number of control points. Even better would be the ability to warp those points using Bezier curves like the Pen tool.

Photoshop: Adjustable grid size for the warp tool

https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/it_would_be_cool_the_have_an_adjustable_grid_...

Note: This conversation was created from a reply on: Photoshop CC 2018: Healing and Spot Healing Brush Lag.
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Affinity has a great implementation of the Warp tool if the folks at Adobe are looking for a little inspiration...
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I'll take a look at Affinity, if it works it's not that expensive. Better than waiting for a solution from Adobe that may never come.
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I cannot figure out how to transform in Affinity - any tips? From what I've found so far you can only transform the corners, even less control than PS.
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it works a little differently... try switching between the source/destination dropdown.

and to add nodes, double-click on the image where you want a new one.
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Maybe there are some copyright or licensing  issues that prevent adobe from implementing this request.

It's been a oft requested feature since Warp appeared in photoshop cs2 (2005), so surely something more than engineering is at issue here.
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Yes, and updated warp tool with more editing points would be sooooo great! I run into too many instances where I open the warp tool too warp something, but I just can't warp the spot I want moved. 

Thanks eartho - I'll have to try Affinity! 
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SInce I posted this in the wrong thread, just following a connection from an email, here it is where it's meant to be:

Yes, this has been asked for for years and years now. Adobe has given us multiple ways to warp, but they're scattered about and finding just the right one that's quick and efficient for the need hasn't always been easy. Today, even remembering the multiple ways for transforming/warping has become difficult.

Think about it. No central location for access to : Adaptive Wide Angle, Perspective Warp, Puppet Warp, Warp, Transform, Free Transform, Perspective Crop, and then there's poor Vanishing Point way out in the hinterlands. And Liquify is yet another form of warping/transforming. Probably the only warp/transform tool that's in the obvious place for it is Text Warp. I think for most of us, all those warps and transformations also translates to a lot of confusion, while the basic Warp doesn't confuse anyone—it just is SO limited.

This is  a reason Warp needs to be more flexible. It's simple, stable, and if it had more anchors (in fact, were more like Gradient Mesh in AI, but for shape) it would be easy to locate, easy to use, and an easy choice to make for many common needs.
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Cristen nailed it - Perfectly stated, all of it, exactly what is needed. 
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Photoshop: Please add customizable number of control points to Transform Warp.

I don't know the reason Adobe hasn't implemented this. I've often wondered about that one myself. At a minimum it would be nice if Adobe could acknowledge the request and perhaps state why they haven't done it. But I've worked in SW, at the biggest of them, and I know what triage lists look like. It could be that it's low on the list. It could be that for some reason it's a difficult request to enable for reasons that we might not expect. It could be that it breaks something. But yes, if it's something a lot of people have requested then it would be nice to have more communication from Adobe as to why. 

That's why I'm appreciating the efforts I see Adobe putting forth lately, from this forum to the surveys I got after we wall went ape shit over the latest Lightroom changes. Transparency goes a long ways ....

Note: This conversation was created from a reply on: Photoshop CC 2018: Healing and Spot Healing Brush Lag.
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Glad this has its own thread. I too have wondered why warp and liquify both are so limited, and I would certainly vote for this as a feature request, and it would benefit me far and above the 3D stuff, for example, which I never use in PS.
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Yes I agree with all the post here and also
I would like to mention the new possibility I would have love to have in PS: Since I work on grey level images... and that the lines of the warp tools is grey too... is is almost impossible to see these lines on my image. So it would be great to have the choice of the color used by the warp tool. It is the same problem with the puppet tool that use only grey lines also. Thanks and have a nice day. JM Hermel.
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There's a workaround. Make your own vector grid in Illustrator with however many subdivisions you want and then place it into the PS doc, convert the placed vector smart object to a smart object (yes, sounds redundant), and then you should be able to warp it.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Photoshop Transform Wrap needs overhauled to allow for precise adjustments.

Transform Wrap fails miserably. Go back to 1995 and install Kai's power tools to learn how this should perform. Needs independent bezoid points that can be selected individually or with others so that multiple adjustments can be made simultaneously. Also need to be able to move a point and maintain aspect ratio without having to drag new guides. And, why do only the corner points show x and y changes? Sad.