Lightroom Classic: Is there a way to display your thumbnails in Grid View with black all around them.

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Is there a way to display your thumbnails in Grid View with black all around them.  Its use to be that you just hit the L key/lights out and it would do this but it only seems to work in Loupe View now.  It use to make my thumbnails pop with all black around them and only a real thin white border. I only seem to get the black it in Loupe View and there isn't the real thin white border either.
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It is working normally here on Windows 10. What OS are you running? What is your Lightroom version (Help>System Info...)?
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Anthony Stagge

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L for lights still works in grid view on LR6.
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It sounds like you're using the new Lightroom CC and not the newly updated Lightroom Classic CC.

If that is the case, you are correct. There isn't a way to do it in Lightroom CC. As the others here have said, you can still do it in Classic.
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Not sure what I'm missing.  I have the Adobe Photography Plan which has both Classic and CC.  I use LR Classic and can't get it to work.  In Grid View when I hit the L key it only dims the menus not the grey border/cells around the thumbnails.  If I hit the L key in Loupe View it dims everything around the image.  Again I have the Adobe Photography Plan which includes the latest versions of PS, LR CC and LR Classic.
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Lightroom Classic-CC 7.0.1 Windows-10
Lights Out [L]  in Grid View does not black out the preview borders here.
My screen-
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Hi Paul,

I don't want to sound too simplistic but there are three levels for that feature, normal, darker, and darkest. It should go completely black with the white borders if you press the L key twice. 

Is that working for you?
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Following this thread. (more details-  Classic-CC 7.0.1 Windows-10   Dell XPS-13)
-Tried the Lights-Out [L] with a single thumbnail in grid view, the result-
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Hey Rick, yes 3 levels to Lights Out. 


Looking at your screen shot I see black outside but med grey around the thumbs themselves accept for the selected one with light grey around it.  In LR 5 it use to be all black around the thumbs with a very thin light border.  Not sure if you use previous versions of LR and used lights out, if so that's how it use to look, all black.  Did you use previous versions? 

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That was Robert's screen shot. It works fine on my MacBook Pro running High Sierra
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Rick, wasn't this confirmed as a bug? There's a few threads. Can't find the one I was looking for but a response is here - https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/lights-out-library-grid-view. Another report here - https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/lightroom-classic-lights-out-bug
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Thanks, Jerry. 

That first post makes it sound like a current bug but I couldn't find it.

I searched for it but only found a similar issue using Compare view. It works fine on my Mac. My Windows machine is at work so I can't test that. 

I'll continue to dig...
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Hi Jerry,

Interesting, so am I to understand that this is a bug that affects some LR Classic users and not others?  If so, Is Adobe aware?

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Yes, because this is the Adobe feedback forum...
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I think it's definitely some users as it's not affecting me either. I also assume that Adobe is aware judging by the comment on the other thread.
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That's the screen shot that I'm used to seeing.  Hopefully this gets address for those of us it's affecting.  It looks like it's affecting Robert also. 

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Thanks again, for the heads up, Jerry! I found it. It is a known issue and will be fixed when the next release comes out.
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Cheers buddy. I was scratching my head a bit with this thinking it looked familiar but it’s a rare case
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Thanks, Jerry and Rick.  Yes, hopefully it gets fixed in the next release.  How often does Adobe do minor updates, now that it's all pretty much all subscription based?
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I see the same issue on my Windows 7 system  with LR Classic 7.0.1, but LR CC 2015.12 works as expected. So it appears this bug is unique to Windows (7, 8, 10) systems.
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This is a known Lr 7.0.x bug that is fixed for the next Lr 7.1 update. Thanks.
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Paul J. Cherol

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Thanks Simon, anyone know when LR 7.1 will be released or have any idea of how often Adobe updates LR?  Peace!
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Can anyone point to the 7.1 update changelog entry details for fixing this bug?  I'm running the very latest, Lightroom Classic-CC 7.3.1 Windows-10, and I STILL get the white thin border around images in Lights Out [L] mode. The only preferences I find allow adjustments to the background color used in LO mode and the dimming %.  How do I turn the border off?



IMHO, It really needs to toggle so it is off by default, then optionally toggled on when handling images with black at the edges and similar special cases.

Thanks.