Elements: Support scalable user interface UI for high resolution monitors

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Hi,

The fonts in Photoshop menus, toolbars and dialog boxes are too small for me, making the sotware almost unusable. I tried to find a way to enlarge them, but there seems to be no solution. Searches on Google confirmed this.

The time when people with CRTs were lowering the resolution to increase font size is over, really. Now we have LCDs with native resolution of almost 1080p, if not more, so there is truly a need to adjust font size. Windows 7 has a facility allowing to scale fonts of application, this works for many programs, but Photoshop and also Premiere seem to just override this and make a custom UI with tiny fonts.

Fortunately for me, I discovered this while trying the demo version. I will probably have to choose some other product for image and video editing.
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Norman Grunbaum

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Thanks. So what resolution do you use on the surface 3 to make it usable and do you keep the surface on that resolution always or do you change whenever using Photoshop?
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The official response is that it does support high resolution displays. I am not sure what that means because, as stated earlier, the Photoshop Editor is hardly usable on a Surface Pro 3 (2160 x 1440) because the text and icons are far too small to see
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled High Resulution Screen: task List to smal.

I have a Adobe Photoshop Elements 12 and have purchased a new high resulation screen. 3700x2500 dpi is the problenm the adobe Probramm task bar is unfortunately so small that man can barely read. How can man make the program task list or greater when delivering an update for adobe Highe Resulution screen
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Elements 13 has support for HiDPI. Looks like you purchased in August, so you're within the 30-day window to receive a complimentary upgrade: http://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/po...
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Hi

I have been waiting (since about Elements 7 or 8) for Adobe to incorporate a simple improvement to Elements - ALLOW the user to set the size of the font in the interface.

I note that Elements 13 supports HiDPI? I have purchased Elements 13 and it may "support" HiDPI, but where can I change the font size in the interface - surely if I have a high res monitor, I will need to increase the font size - which I can not.

As I have commented before - my vision is better than 20/20 but the default font is way way way too small.

GET IT SORTED ADOBE !
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Please Adobe take on Simon's suggestion for improvement. It must be worth it - you will have so many happy customers.
We all do love Photoshop but anyone with a high resolution screen needs a pair of binoculars to read text in the interface!
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So there is no way to make the menus icons and text larger within the program? I to am running PSE13 on a SP3.
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Being a bit cynical, I note that Microsoft Surface Pro 4 with a slightly larger screen is due by Xmas 2015. Is that the solution? I hope not.
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Norman Grunbaum

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well i'd love to know if there is one. i'm having to use the program with a low resolution monitor attached to the SP3 ! or squint!
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This is really frustrating. I cannot understand why the designers of Photoshop Elements don't realize that the interface is so hard to use on a laptop like the Surface Pro. There should be someway to change the size of the menus! People have been complaining about this for over two years...
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It is funny...even in the picture that the Adobe representative sent you can see that the menus are insanely too small. If you want to try to use them on a touch screen it is almost impossible. It is as if the Adobe programmers and other workers live in an alternative universe... ArtRage and Sketchbook have all created interfaces that work well with the Surface tablets and with pen input.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Photoshop Elements 12 Display Scaling on a 4k display.

Photoshop Elements 12's High Res Display scaling is absolutely terrible. I just purchased a second brand new laptop that was 'supposed' to be purpose built to run photoshop. The reality is that the display scaling in elements 12 is just plain awful.

Both the surface pro 3 and the Toshiba P55t-B5340 has a 4k display (you know a feature someone would look for when buying a premium computer to use for photo editing). Is there a legit fix for this issue (that doesn't require a registry hack) to have a working product???

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Official Response
Elements 13.1, which was released yesterday, provides manual control for settings 200% scaling for HiDPI:



Choose Help>Updates... to install the update.
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My Elements 12 said i was up to date! Driving me crazy
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I just updated to 13.1 on the Surface Pro 3 and DO NOT see this selection available as you have described above. can you please tell me why?

Bob
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Thanks I missed it. In the previous post it shows it being under the "General" and on my SP3 its actually under "display cursors" It was so small as I selected each section I just plain could not see it. 150% would be better. Why did they not make the percentage user selectable?

Bob
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We are still working with MIcrosoft to address the OS issues needed to make more flexible UI scaling work. It was a large effort on the part of both companies just to make 200% UI scaling work correctly.
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if your final fix is not completed by the time PSE14 comes out will Adobe extend to those of us that are suffering from this issue a complimentary upgrade to the new version? I believe this would be a "Win Win" situation since due to this issue affected customers have suffered reduced and in some cases frustrating use of the product from the fist day of ownership thus reducing the overall value that the product was supposed to provide.

Bob
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@Chris

Strange that it is so difficult for MS. I am running their Visual Studio on a Dell XPS15 with resolution of 3200x1800 and the tool bars and menu bars all display just perfect. Same with Excel and Word. So UI scaling by MS has been working there for years.
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No, UI Scaling in WIndows has been broken for many years - but the problems were not really visible until high resolution displays became available. That is why we have been working closely with Microsoft to get the OS issues addressed.
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Yep 200% is getting better but is not an acceptable solution see screen shot.

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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled ELEMENTS: everything is so small it's hard to read..

My Elements 12 works fine, but all of the menu and control items are so small they are hard to see. I just added Phototheca and it has the same problem. I may be doing something wrong...not sure. Using Windows 8.1 and my monitor is 3200X1800.

Any help would be appreciated, Thanks
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You know what is hilarious, well maybe not so hilarious was the TV commercial Microsoft was showing during the 2014 holiday season it actually compared the SP3 to the MBP and verbally stated in the commercial that the SP3 runs PS and actually showed the screen of the SP3 in the commercial with PS running and is was not in the small looking configuration that we here are suffering from. False advertising at the worst or I missed the text disclaimer, if there was one that stated "all screen images are simulated".
So Adobe folks perhaps you should remind Microsoft of this it may put a fire under them to better prioritize a permanent solution to this issue on their end.

Bob
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Actually, Microsoft's commercial is completely accurate. The most recent update to Photoshop CC (the 2015 edition) allows you to use a properly scaled UI. The problem wasn't on Microsoft's end, incidentally, it was on Adobe's end.

Moreover, I actually upgraded from a Macbook Pro and iPad to Surface Pro 3, and you know what? It's a fantastic computer, the best I've ever owned. You couldn't pay me to go back to the Macbook :).
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Actually, Adobe had to work with Microsoft to fix the OS Scaling APIs to even get 200% scaling working. Microsoft had a lot of issues in the scaling APIs that just hadn't been exposed until high dpi displays became available. Adobe is continuing to work with Microsoft to resolve the OS issues needed to make more flexible UI scaling work on Windows.
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Good information. Thanks, and yes please do "carry on" for a final solution.
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Thanks very much for your work on this so far. It may not be the perfect solution yet! but it is good to know the issue is currently being addressed.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled text size in program Photoshop Elements 13 running Windows 8.

When working with Photoshop Elements 13 on a laptop running Windows 8. The text is so small. Click on a picture and can bearly read the information. My tag list is hard to read. Is there anyway of makeing it bigger.
I have PHE10 on a computer running Windows 7 and the text is all larger.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled ELEMENTS 13 Font/Icons too Small on Pro Surface 3.

Trying PS Elements 13 on my Surface Pro 3. The......program is so small(words, Icons, etc) that I really can't use it. Windows 8 with a screen resolution of 2160x1440. Even when I change resolution it doesn't seem to change the size of the program fonts.........
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Have you tried Edit>Preferences?Display & Cursors: UI Scale factor Large 200%
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I'm running Windows 8 and Photoshop Elements 13.1 and I do not see Display & Cursors under Edit>Preferences

What am I doing wrong? Can't read my tags, keywords, information in the program.
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It's in the editor preferences, not in the organizer ones.
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Thanks. Well that made text in editor larger, but not in Organizer. Has it made text larger in Organizer?
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The organizer is aware of your font size settings in Windows.
For instance, for my 1920 x 1200 24" display, seen from two and a half inches, I have set the Windows settings to 125%. That is good for my other softwares and the Explorer; in the Organizer, it's a bit too large for my taste, but it's not worth trying other %.
Right click on an empty location of your desk, choose 'screen resolution', then select the option to alter text size.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Fonts are too small on photo shop elements, I am going to request Amazon to refun....

all menu fonts are to small.
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Elements 13 already has 200% UI Scaling support for Windows. See the answers at the top of the topic.
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Organizer does not change at all. You have a mess.
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In Windows, the Organizer simply uses the Windows fonts display settings. Right click on an empty part of your display and choose screen resolution. Look for the option to customize font size.
By default (100%), the font size will be ok for a normal dpi display. If the font size in the Organizer is too small, that will be the same for all other applications. I have a calibrated 1920 x 1200 pixels 24" viewed from 75 cm. I consider this to be the optimal configuration for a serious amateur. (An hdpi display would give no advantage for editing/retouching, only serious drawbacks).
While I can work comfortably in any software at 100% Windows font size, I have chosen to set it to 125%, which is good for the Organizer as well as the Explorer.
For the editor and other Adobe and many other editors softwares, changing the Windows font size does not work, hence the 200% workaround in the application itself.
It's interesting to test the font size with the organizer because it shows perfectly that the display of the font size and its scalability are not the only challenge with todays displays, from smartphotes to tablets to desktops.
If I set it to 150% (too large) All the tools on the left panel can't be displayed. Scaling the font size is not enough. Just like for your smartphone you need a new interface layout to see all top menus and tool bars. You are happy with a special arrangement to see your usual Internet browser on your smartphone. For applications with a rich set of menus/panels/tool icons, You'd also need 'scaled' layouts for each display size/viewing condition.
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It does nothing to Photoshop Elements Organizer 13.1
I just tried it. Editor is too big at 200 and Organizer doesn't change at all.