Lightroom Classic: Importing color raw images get auto-converted to black & white (no presets)

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Importing color RAW images get auto-converted to BW (no presets). I saw similar posts but none solved my issue.

As you can see from the screenshots the images are fine in my Finder (mac) and also before importing them. Also there are not presets set before importing:



After importing each of the thumbnails they start getting converted to BW (no presets there either):


Even checking history for an image does not show any preset applied:


Even resetting or shift+reset does not work. I have also reset lightroom to default and the same happens.
I tried importing a jpeg image and everything is OK and it is not converted to BW.

Any ideas why this may be happening?
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Default settings is my best bet. Go to Develop menu > Set Default Settings > Reset All Default Develop Settings and then try reset.
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Hi, I already tried that with no sucess :(
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retagging as Lightroom Classic CC
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shift-Reset should reset to Adobe defaults, so it is strange that this does not work either. I noticed that the images are DNG files, but the folder is labelled Fuji, so I assume the raw files were converted to DNG. What software did you use for that? Lightroom? DNG Converter? Something else?
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Correct i used DNG converter to convert from fuji raw to DNG.
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Any more ideas ?
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Send one to a colleague with the same LR version to see if it happens to him/her as well. More eyes can be a huge help.
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If you want to send one to me, I'll try it here. Use Dropbox or WeTransfer to uploads AT lightroomqueen DOT com
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If you have Photoshop installed, launch it and go to Camera Raw by opening a raw file. In the Basic Panel click the hamburger menu (≡) and select Reset Camera Raw Defaults. 

Try your import now.  Any change?
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There was a similar issue with a Fuji XT 2 user due to a missing Adobe Standard camera profile. When this occurs the top-most alphanumeric named profile is substituted, which may be a B&W profile. The OP is on LR 5 so he needs to check the Calibration panel and post a screenshot of the drop-down camera profile menu.

https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/fujifilm-xt-2-files-appear-black-and-white-wh...




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Hi! its true what you mention. This BW photos have the ACROS profile in Camera callibration.
When i check photos without the issue they have the Adobe calibration. However, copying it and pasting/syncing does not do anything.

Any idea why? The adobe profile is not added to those BW photos.
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What camera model was used with the pictures that are 1) Color and for those that are 2) B&W.

Also for the files in B&W what do you see when you click on the Profile selector in the LR 5 Camera Calibration panel as shown below?


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Camera mode use Fuji x-e3 for both color and BW.

What i did discover is that for the ones that had the issue with BW they were converted to DNG using DNG converter 10.
I then downloaded DNG converter 11 and the error was gone.

So i think that was the error. Unfortunately the ones converted in Adobe DNG converter 10 cannot be reverted back and I also removed the raw fuji files :(

In the camera calibration for the BW photos i see this only:
https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/importing-color-raw-images-get-auto-converted-to-bw-no-presets?utm_source=notification&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=new_comment&utm_content=reply_button&reply[id]=20062484
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You should provide a link one of these DNG files that was converted by DNG 10 and come out B&W so others can take a look.  I am sure the engineers at Adobe would like to see them.
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Juliano,

Your screenshot shows you are using an older version of Lightroom. Can you update to 8.2 and see if the problem is still present?
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Camera mode use Fuji x-e3 for both color and BW.
That camera needs LR 6.13 or DNG Converter 10.0, which should have worked. There was an issue with DNG Converter 9.8 embedding incorrect camera profiles as described below, which must have been fixed in 11.0 since that works properly.

https://forums.adobe.com/message/9212247#9212247
What you can do to "fix" the DNG files with the 'Camera ACROS' B&W camera profile is to copy the Fujifilm X-E3 Adobe Standard.dcp profile that should have been assigned by the DNG converter to the user camera profile folder. I've only used this procedure with my own "custom" camera profiles, but it should work also with an Adobe camera profile. Give it a try!

1) Search your system drive for Fujifilm X-E3 Adobe Standard.dcp.

2) Copy & Paste the above file into the below user folder location.
Windows—C: \ Users \ [your username] \ AppData \ Roaming \ Adobe \ CameraRaw \ CameraProfiles \

Mac—Macintosh HD / Users / [your username] / Library / Application Support / Adobe / CameraRaw / CameraProfiles /

3) Restart LR and the Adobe Standard profile should now appear in the Camera Calibration Profile selector.

4) Use Copy & Paste or Sync Develop settings with ONLY 'Calibration' checked in the 'Copy Settings' to apply the Adobe Standard profile to the other B&W DNG files.

5) I suggest as a backup you select ALL of these files and use the CTRL/CMD + S keys to update the DNG file embedded camera profile and JPEG preview with the newly assigned Adobe Standard profile.
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Your screenshot shows you are using an older version of Lightroom. Can you update to 8.2 and see if the problem is still present?
Rikk in the OP's original post the bottom-most screenshot shows he's using LR 5 so no update available. See my post above for suggested remediation.

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In Macintosh HD / Users / [your username] / Library / Application Support / Adobe / CameraRaw / CameraProfiles / i can only see an index.dat file.

I also did a search of my entire disk and no dcp  files were found. I wonder if they are named differently in Mac.

IN regards to updating Lightroom i dont think it is needed because new images are being imported fine. As for the BW images I guess Todd's idea should work but i cannot find the profile.

Any ideas?



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If you have the DNG Converter installed you'll find the Fujifilm X-E3 Adobe Standard.dcp camera profile in one of its program folders. You may need to change system folders permissions to find and copy it. Also try searching using just Fujifilm X-E3.
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Hi, I found the ones for X-e1 and e2 in the Lightroom 5 folder. I will try with updating to LR 6.
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The profiles are in the DNG Converter application folder and not Lightroom 5.

If you upgrade to LR 6 and update it to the last version 6.14 it will fully support the X-E3 model. That's a good idea if you have no intention of moving to LR CC or Lightroom Classic at this time.

http://blogs.adobe.com/lightroomjournal/2017/12/6-14-now-available-last-perpetual-update-of-lightroom.html