Lightroom Classic: Imported Images not showing in navigation drop downs

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Hi any help would be greatly appreciated. Two images showing, 1 with images in folders while importing and then this morning when I switched the lightroom on blank. I was still like that after 1 hour.
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What happens if you restart Lightroom?  Restart your computer? 

Are they still blank after attempting both?
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After 3 hours they have all appeared. That took along time. Any idea what could be the issue?
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If you restart Lightroom does it take 3 hours or do they populate more quickly.
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I restarted the Mac earlier and took just as long
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I read somewhere that it could be the amount of files. But never had an issue that it took that long
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Unless you have millions of images - it probably isn't in play.
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That is really abnormal. 
Have you optimized your catalog recently? File>Optimize...
Where is your catalog stored (internal, external)
Did this behavior just start or has it been going on a while?
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It’s a new external hardrive, the catalog is stored internally and only just started since importing images from new hard drive
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OS? Version?
Hard Drive Model? 
How Connected?
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I’ve recently updated the Mac to the recent version but away now, at work so cant give you the specs, hard drive is a 8tb seagate and it’s connected via USB
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So far I reckon I’ve imported about 100,000 images and need to import another 100,000
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With that many recently imported images, very possibly LR is still building the initial previews. You can see its progress in the upper-right corner:



With the default Import option of Build Previews: Embedded & Sidecar, my LR 8.1 fetches the initial previews of raws at about 1 - 2 per sec (from a local SSD); JPEGs probably go faster. So 100,000 photos could take 14 - 28 hours.

You could wait until the previews are all built, or you could cancel the Fetching Initial Previews task and force the previews to be built later using Library > Previews > Build. 

You could do the next import using the option Build Previews: Minimal and then build the standard-sized previews later overnight using Library > Previews > Build.

LR tries to remain interactive when doing such tasks in background, but it's always struggled to do this well for all users all the time.
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I’ve seen this building preview etc in progress and was running for a few days. It seemed to be slowing the lR down on importing other folders.
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The other thing I was using minimal before and no images were showing on the preview page. I changed it to standard and they all appeared.
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"on the preview page"

Do you mean the Import window or in Library grid view?
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Library grid were the images appear
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When you used Minimal and observed a blank grid view, did the progress bar in the upper-left corner indicate any activity?  It may have been that LR was getting bogged down with the huge import and was very slow in updating the view. 

As a workaround, I suggest doing the import with Minimal and waiting until the progress bar indicates all activity has stopped before trying to use LR. 
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Hi John, all I’m doing is importing files and not doing any work as such.
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The building preview is in progress and is taking forever to complete. I had the minimal set at one point but changed it to actually see images on the library grid.
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Were you using LR on the old OS before this new one and if so were these 200,000 images in LR at that time?  If so why, are you re-importing them rather than just using the pre-existing Catalog and just re-pointing it to the images on the new external drive?.  
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Yes I was. I’ve added additional folders to the existing ones. The new hard drive wasn’t used by lightroom and to be honest had no idea what to do
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I’m nearly at the stage of deleting LR.
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"I had the minimal set at one point but changed it to actually see images on the library grid."

Were you trying to view the thumbnails before the Minimal import actually completed?  Once the Minimal import completes, you should see the thumbnails.  A Minimal import should be many times faster than Standard. 

It's definitely a problem that there aren't any thumbnails showing up with Minimal before it completes, but that's likely the problem I described earlier about interactive responsiveness of LR while very large imports and exports are taking place -- you have to wait for the import/export to finish before trying to use LR, including seeing the thumbnails.




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"The building preview is in progress and is taking forever to complete. I had the minimal set at one point but changed it to actually see images on the library grid."

Cancel the preview building by clicking on the "x" in the upper-left progress bar. All the remaining images will have Minimal previews.  

Restart LR and see if it's reasonably responsive, showing all the thumbnails.  Assuming it is, you can then do Library > Previews > Build Standard-Size Previews at a convenient time and let it run overnight.
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"I’ve added additional folders to the existing ones. The new hard drive wasn’t used by lightroom and to be honest had no idea what to do"

To build on Dan Hartford's reply, if you have an existing catalog that includes most of your photos, you might be better off going back to that existing catag.  If you explain in more detail how you are reorganizing your drives, Dan or I can walk you through the necessary steps.