Lightroom: Import "copy as DNG" automatically creates "Reset Settings" History stage

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Import "copy as DNG" automatically creates "Reset Settings" History stage

"Copy" does not not trigger "reset settings"

Additional stage seems to have appeared with 2015.4 release.

Feature or bug?

Is there a work around to get rid of auto reset?

Thanks!

Henry
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A newly imported image normally has the default settings, and a reset-settings also uses default settings. 

What is your scenario where it makes a difference, or are you saying there is no visual difference, just an extra history step?

And are you copying from a camera memory card or from some other source?

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Hi Steve - Thanks!

Just an extra history step caused me to wonder what it meant.

Copying from a memory card. 

The reset occurs with dng conversions though not with files copied in their original manufacturer raw format.

Cheers!

Henry
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Are there any settings changes if you click on the Import step vs the Reset step?   Do you have any custom LR defaults, set?  I know in the past, conversion to DNG has forgotten to do custom defaults and instead applied factory defaults so maybe the Reset settings is just to make sure your custom defaults are applied, even if you haven't done any customizations to the defaults. 

It could also be that the DNG Conversion is performed in two steps, one that copies the native raw file and imports it, and the second step, in the background is conversion to DNG, so maybe the Reset is when the DNG Conversion is finished.  You could watch on a new import and see if the Reset takes a small amount of time to show up and if so the conversion to DNG may be what puts it there.

I never convert to DNG on import so don't have these nuances in mind from personal experience and am just trying to imagine what is occurring.

My initial set of questions about what your scenario was, is because of the concern you were copying-converting-to-DNG native raw files that had been previously processed so there was an XMP file with the custom settings, and those settings were getting reset.  Since you're copying from the camera, that's not likely the issue.

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Hi Steve,

Sorry for the delay getting back to you. I was away shooting. Just getting back to the computer now.

You ask good questions. I convert on import directly from the camera's memory card. I have no custom presets set. I checked all the sliders in all the panels. There seems to be no additional processing.

The reset seems to do nothing. Nothing is reset. It appears to be a meaningless notification added in version 2015.4.

I will report it as a bug. If it isn't, Adobe will hopefully explain.

Many thanks for your help.


Henry
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Oops!

It is just me. An entire class of Lightroom students did not have the problem.

What switch in LIghtroom has inadvertently been activated? Any suggestions?
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If you have customized your LR defaults, and they haven't, then maybe LR behaves differently when importing as DNG and the reset is there to ensure the DNG has the customized LR defaults.
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Hi Steve,

No customization on my part to Development. We were all on the same page.

I will have to keep looking for the switch or try an entire fresh download of Lightroom.
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Downloading LR shouldn't make a difference.  You might reset your Preferences by, on Windows, holding down the Shift-Alt keys while starting up LR and confirming the reset on the popup.  If you're on a Mac, Google says it's Shift-Opt-Delete you hold down.
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I have reset Presets, but "Reset Settings" continues to appear on new imports.

Thanks for your patience and persistence. I am now officially going nuts over this.

Cheers!
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Can you please explain in detail, the steps because I'm new to this...?
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Hi Alex,

Since I updated to LRCC version 2015.4 I have been getting a “Reset Settings” stage automatically when I import from a memory card plugged into my Mac Pro laptop and convert to DNG. I checked all the panels; no sliders have moved. Reset Settings and Import are identical. It appears to be a totally unnecessary action. And did not happen before my update.

It looks like this:



I have tried resetting Presets and setting up a Test User on my Mac with a new catalog.

The Reset Settings continues to appear.

Is it just the new way LR has of importing?

Cheers!


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But you said none of your students are seeing this with their LRs.   Are they using a different version than you?