Lightroom Classic: Chokes on large keyword lists (Windows only)

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Please see the image - I cannot scroll any further down the keyword list after the word 'coloured'. This is a much more recent problem than the separate keyword export issue I have just reported but it means that I cannot do even a manual fix of that other issue.Help much appreciated!Scott
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"won't all those child words [A, B, C, ...] potentially foul up my smart collections just as my current problem does?"

No, not unless you have a "real" keyword that's a single letter.
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I have a similar problem, an abbreviated keyword list, but with a twist.
My keyword list in Lightroom properly displays all keywords when running Lightroom Classic 9.2.1 under Windows 7, but the keyword list is abbreviated when running the exact same Lightroom Classic 9.2.1 under Windows 10.  Both machines are using the exact same catalog.
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FYI, my list has a total of 3152 keywords, but under Windows 10 it shows only up to item 1471. 

Also, I believe the max keywords for Lightroom Classic under Windows is 3270 from what others have reported, but I think that limit prevents someone from creating any more keywords and has nothing to do with scrolling the list, correct?

Any suggestions would be appreciated, including alternatives to Lightroom.
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Wrong. It's all about visibility. You can create more - you just can't see them in the keywording list. So introduce a little hierarchy into the list, or use the filter box. It's crap that Adobe don't fix this, but who wants to scroll down 1600+ lines anyway?
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OK, so now that I'm painted into a corner, I have to change my keywords to utilize a hierarchy, but Adobe Lightroom has a problem there as well !!!  I can only drag and drop items within the top 30% of the already significantly abbreviated keyword list!

Yes, that's right.  I'm trying to implement the recommended workaround to Adobe's well-known problem, and even THAT doesn't work properly!  Right now I can only see items from A to I in the keyword list, and only items from A to the middle D's can be dragged, with the remaining items simply ignoring the mouse drag event.

The hits just keep on coming with Adobe Lightroom.

Lightroom, what a piece of garbage!  How can Adobe in good conscience continue to take people's money while leaving fundamental usability problems unaddressed FOR YEARS???

And don't give me the excuse "it's a Windows problem".  BS.  I was a software developer for over 25 years.  ANYTHING can be done if there is a will and desire to fix it.  Adobe obviously doesn't have the skill, or desire, to fix it.
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"My keyword list in Lightroom properly displays all keywords when running Lightroom Classic 9.2.1 under Windows 7, but the keyword list is abbreviated when running the exact same Lightroom Classic 9.2.1 under Windows 10."

The maximum number of keywords LR can display depends on the maximum size of a low-level Windows window and the pixel height of a keyword row in the Keyword List display. It's been years since I checked, but I think the maximum size of a low-level window changed somewhere between Windows 7 and Windows 10, from 2^15-1 (32,767) to 2^16-1 (65,535).  The height of a row in the Keyword List depends on the Windows display scaling (called different names in Windows 7 and Windows 10), and the LR setting Preferences > Interface > Font Size.

On my Windows 10 configuration, with Font Size set to Automatic, the Keyword List displays 3270 keywords, each row of which is 20 pixels high. This corresponds to 20 * 3270 = 65,180 pixels, leaving 135 pixels for displaying the header row and borders.  With Font Size set to 200%, the Keyword List displays 1718 keywords, each row of which is 38 pixels high. This corresponds to 38 * 1718 = 65,284, leaving 251 pixels for the header and borders.