I ask this on behalf of the community. When will adobe fix the overall DOG SLOWNESS

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When is Adobe going to develop a new version of Lightroom that is not laggy, pathetically slow and garbage?  I have been dealing with extreme slowness now ever since Lightroom CC hit the scene.  

Do Adobe realise how many hours i lose when editing thousands upon thousands of photos and have the program lag all the time?

Every time you release a new version addressing "slowness" and that you have apparently fixed the "slowness", i never see a single change.

I own the fastest, best iMac you can get.  I have a late 2015 iMac 5k specced as high as it can go.. it was around $5500.
I also own a 12 core xeon chip PC with 128GB ram that cost $8500.

On both of these machines Lightroom still lags to high hell.  Don't even start with "troubleshooting".  It is your software.

Photoshop is magical fast now.  Why can't you make Lightroom the same? 

The community is tired of sub par updates and excuses.

FIX THE SLOWNESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Check in Preferences under File Handling Tab on the bottom under Camera Raw Cache setting what is your Maximum Size. With it to the Maximum of 200.00 GB if you have that many GB available on your main Hard drive. Also make sure that your Graphics Processor is checked on under the Performance Tab. I understand that the work is faster if you process Smart Preview images instead of the originals. Good Luck.
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Shane Betts

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I'm with you Michael R. I'm on the verge of closing my business down due to the steady increase in the time it takes me to complete post. I'm losing money and Adobe are directly to blame. The community is very helpful with workarounds and tips designed to lessen the impact of Adobe's crappy coding but, meanwhile, Adobe just ignore us and keep doing whatever it is they're doing, not addressing the problems and feature requests. Unfortunately, I'm sure losing my individual subscription won't hurt them too much. Certainly not the way closing a once-profitable business will hurt me and my family.
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As a Mac IT guy for over 21 years I can tell all of you something that you may not have realized: it's your OS, (or maybe database size). Start by running Onyx & Disk Warrior, or do a nuke&pave to regain your OS functionality. My LR works fine on my iMac Retina, but there's no "cruft", or directory damage, or damaged application states. Also, I do a new catalog every 2 years to keep the size down.
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I have the same problems and wish I could move to Capture one.
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By far, the most money I spend on my laptop is upgrading for LR. Nothing else I do requires so much CPU, memory, or storage. But, after going to internal SSDs (5TB) and splitting the catalog into three, LR is usable again.

If you're willing to change how you use LR, not writing your changes into XMP files speeds things up a lot. Night and day really. I do write the changes, because my system is good enough now with the SSDs. But I used to turn off the auto feature and do the "save metadata to files" as an overnight process. Not perfect, but it worked fine.

I also optimize the catalog every hour.

So you know: I have about 4tb of photos on the internal SSDs and another 2TB on an external LaCie thunderbolt drive, and I do a LOT of face recognition and spend a lot of time in the develop module. My system slows considerably if I have to go to the external drive, but those photos aren't used so much, so it's not a huge concern.

I agree: LR is a monster. But, I have no suggestions on how it could be made tighter or speedier, so I just adjust my hardware and work style, because I need it and so I do what I must.
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lightroom is a dream on laptops because the screens are small.  it becomes a dog on bigger screens because they cannot figure out a decent way to render to larger screens.  My macbook pro with 16mb ram 512gb ssd and dedicated video card runs rings around my iMac with 4gig video card, 1tb SSD, 64gb RAM, and the fastest i7 available to iMac
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I have three FHD screens to get a wide workspace. The horizontal resolution is effectively 5760 and the vertical is 1080, which gives me sort of a 3K screen. I stretch the LR workspace across all 3 screens: not completely because I want space on the edges to see a slice of other programs I am running alongside LR (PS, InDesign, Excel...). Certainly the mechanics of rendering a 4K 3840x2160 screen are different than my 5760x1080 setup, but still, I don't run just a laptop FHD screen. Possibly I should count my blessings: I've been looking at a 4K screen to replace my 3-screen setup. Maybe I should stay where I am.
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Same here. The worst part is, that there is not one STATEMENT from adobe about the obvious speed problems. Nothing, just dead silence. 

Sometimes i think they just dont want to support anymore..


and now some guys will appear and tell everyone how fast it runs on their machines. "just put the cache, catalog and files on different harddrives" , "use ssd's", "dont apply noise correction", "enlarge the cache size", "reinstall your windows", bla bla bla....

i dont know what files they are handling but with 30mpx+ and 2k+ screens its slow as shi**.

IT IS HORRIBLE,

if a switch to capture one would be easy i would be gone....but here i am...still hoping for some kind of statement...
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Carlos, I'm also a big fan of Disk Warrior but I'm afraid in this case you have either failed to grasp the situation or you're just being glib. The issues that many of us battle with every day in our work in Lightroom are simply not a result of directory issues. Rebuild your directories until kingdom come and LR will still perform slowly, it will still reject a fair percentage of perfectly healthy GPUs, it will still use only some of the CPU cores and it will still simply fail to perform batch tasks for no obvious reason. And it still won't apply presets if it's in the background. And Photoshop will still insist on forcing it's way into the foreground to complete tasks that should be done in the background.
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Yep, 21 years of experience supporting Macs leads to glib! You got me there Shane! No good deed goes on punished huh? I'm not saying LR is perfect, just trying to point out another (obvious) reason why LR might be slow, instead of automatically blaming adobe for everything, like some here do. Have you tried Onyx, or a nuke&pave?
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Carlos,

the thing is...i think no one here is "automatically" blaming adobe....to be honest i am pretty much offended by that statement of yours...because i am a guy who tries first everything in his own power.. i am in search for a solution for a few years now...its just getting worse not better....so please...your statement feels almost arrogant. Ok you have been an mac it guy for 21 years now...but dont think others here cannot have the same experience, the same knowledge and so on...

just imagine if you, you personally, have tried everything you can think of for years now, you went through every detail, almost every tip, hint you can find out there and someone suggests something trivial like cleanup tools...and suggests these tools in 90% of the posts he does.....or blames your own system....man...it would not help you in any way...because you know its not that...i hope you understand my point...

so please dont be so absolute in the opinion that if it works for you, it works for everyone...google it...hundrets of results just related to LR performance...look at the multicore performance crap, it doesnt even scale...gpu support works sometimes...sometimes not...hundrets of threads...

and in the end....why do the users have to care so much about optimization, tweaks, preferences....it is part of a good programm that it runs without troubles in the first place... like mike said....we should not even have to bother!!!!

and the worst thing, you play that issue down by suggesting something you think is the solution over and over again....but its not a solution!!!

all we want is that adobe acknowledges the problem and give some feedback for the future...or maybe (but i dont think there is one with this code) a solution to some of the problems...

no hard feelings, really, i just want people to take that issue seriously.
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I never said "it's a solution", or "you must be wrong", so please don't put words in my mouth. I just suggest that, people who haven't tried my suggestions should try them. You obviously have, so they don't apply to you. And yeah, some here ARE obviously automatically blaming Adobe (and I'm not saying Adobe is blameless either). Believe me, in IT we've been fighting their crap authentication servers for years (where you delete the account, recreate it, third times the charm)!
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I dont want to put anything in your mouth...sorry...so we should not talk about those imperfections of speech (since i am not even a native speaker)...everyone can read what you and i wrote...

to say adobe is not blameless either is a bold statement..suggesting the other party(the user, windows) is guilty...

and there i have to disargree...if someone buys hardware which is top notch, has a fresh system and it does not work....its freaking adobes fault....fullstop.

ok because there is a huge variety of hardware configurations it can be that sometimes there are issues...but he...its not sometimes....its all over the place...and its not fixable without adobe...

so" adobe its not blameless either"....no...its their freaking fault that there programm does not work on reasonable NEW machines...

i was hoping that processing power of my i7 at 4,8ghz is not enough and i can fix this by buying new hardware (i allready thought that with my ssd's so now i have 3 of them and still as bad)....

ryzen came out... --> https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Adobe-Lightroom-CC-2015-8-AMD-Ryzen-7-1700X-1800X-Perform...

i mean....WTF.....
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why haven't we had an official response from Adobe on this?  I realise the truth hurts.. I encourage everyone to keep commenting and "Me-too'ing"
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For me its a desperate position. On the one hand my workflow, my style is in LR. So much work went into finding the right color adjustments. On the other hand its almost impossible to work with these perfomance issues.

So what to do now? I dont want to switch somewhere else but i dont know if Adobe is working on a solution, if they even see it as an issue, if the next version of LR will have the same issues and if there even will be a next version....

its so frustrating because these informations would be crucial for planing the future....
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if you scroll through this site alone, there are enough threads about this....for example this one -->https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/lightroom-clone-and-brush-tool-can-not-stress...

there was a good idea of reporting our issue to fstoppers. Maybe this will make adobe give a statement... https://fstoppers.com/contact

cheers
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Sorry if I offended you Carlos but what I actually said was, "you either fail to grasp the situation or you're being glib". I accept that you're not being glib, therefore I refer you to the first part of the sentence. You fail to grasp the situation. You say you do a new catalog every two years. I make a new one every six months. Your initial post stated that the problem "is" the operating system. Perhaps "might be" would have won you a few more friends. I know you're trying to help. Lo siento. Running Disk Warrior was a good idea. Tech Tool would also be worth a shot, as LR is very hardware dependant. However, the breadth of problems suffered by professional photographers working with LR and PS indicate that there is a lot Adobe need to answer for. And, as usual, they're silent...
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Stefan, I know exactly what you mean. You rely so heavily on an application that continues to let you down. Adobe have killed my business and they say and do nothing.