Lightroom: How do you switch from searching Keyword List to browsing?

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Often a search in the Keyword List panel will reveal the region in my hierarchy where the term I am looking for is but not the actual term I want to use.

Once I have entered in a search in the "Filter Keywords" entry I want to end the search and switch to browsing at a selected point so that I can select the correct term.

In the attached example I want to browse into high-level cloud and select the correct term.

-louie

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Louis Sherwin

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A TJ

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I'm not sure I understand what you want to do.

Are you saying that you want to use a keyword inside "high-level" cloud, but you can't because it doesn't include "cloud" and so it isn't displayed in the filtered list?

When I have this situation, I only have two choices,1) choose a different filter word that will match with the one I want or 2) cancel the filter (hit the x) and manually browse for the keyword.
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I should add, it would be nice if Lightroom at least remembered which keyword was selected so you could at least filter to hone in on the area wanted.
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Louis Sherwin

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Yes you understand my question and perhaps my frustration. I too would be very happy if selected term would remain selected and active after I cancel the search. But it doesn't.

This makes the process very slow an tedious.
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Well I guess if I just keep on typing, clicking and swearing eventually, sometimes I will learn something new!!

I sort of solved this problem or at least s feasible workaround.

IF the keywords in your Keyword List are fully expanded BEFORE you type into the Filter Keywords.

THEN after doing the search above and selecting high-level clouds when you click the X to cancel the filter the selected term will remain selected and I can now see all of the hierarchy.

This little subtle trick has been alluding me since I started working with LR3beta!
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Rats!!!

This works but it does not scroll to the selected term when you cancel the search. It worked before because I just had a small section expanded which I already knew that I wanted to see which means I didn't need the search in the first place.

I guess that leaves me in same place as above. More typing clicking and swearing without much satisfaction.

Time to go surfing...
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I could be missing the point of your topic, but have you tried using the filter panel to browse keywords? If you set up multiple columns with "keyword" set as the content of every column, I've found this provides a pretty useful capability of browsing keywords and their hierarchies. Your mileage may vary, of course, depending on the complexity of your hierarchies.
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See my reply which gives an example of what he's trying to do.

Using the keyword filter only displays those that match. Any keywords inside the matched keywords but that don't match aren't displayed.
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Louis Sherwin

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Jim, not a bad idea but it doesn't quite provide the solution I am trying to get. Using multiple keyword columns in Filter bar is a very useful way to make complicated selections. However, it will only show keywords that have been applied to images in the catalog.

I am trying to search for keywords in the "Keyword List" , assigned or not. I currently have about 2500 terms in my Keywords List. If you know term you are it's easy. If you want to browse the entire list that is easy. But if you want to look for defined categories and then browse from the results, that seems to be not possible.
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Ah...I get it now. And I also see the behavior you describe...the selected keyword only remains selected if it is the top keyword in the hierarchy. At any other level the selection is cleared when you clear the search. Not very useful. Smells like a bug, or at least a significant usability issue.
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Exactly!