Photoshop CC 2015.1: New smallest swatch size is too large, offer smaller size

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After Photoshop CC 2015.1 update the size of swatches are super huge and fills a large portion of the screen (while viewing all of them...which i do) at the minimum size.
Is this intentional?
Is there a way to get smaller, manageable swatch sizes again?
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Richard White

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Adobe Photoshop See what's possible - so that tagline goes.

Fortunately I downloaded the new version and did not update it. It is a relatively insignificant tick box as I recall. The difference is that downloading retains the previous version where as updating removes the previous cc version/s during installation. Update has been the default since CC 2014. Someone might correct me on that.

Apologies angryf that I couldn't give you some better news. Monica's suggestion is absolutely valid if you downloaded instead of updated.

And to Chris I hope this 'feature' to use angryf's terms can be altered soon.
Users will decide with their feet if they like Adobe updates.
As for Mark E, Monica and myself, well we have decided that it's not for us.
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Ross Hughes

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Add me to the list of requests that the swatch size be reduced to it's previous size. These are HUGE even in the small swatch list.
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Dan Grayson

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One more Photoshop veteran (17 years!) chiming in on the feature request to support legacy swatch size, which is significantly smaller than the current smallest swatch size. The old size was great. The new sizes are absolutely too big and don't allow me to fit my full set of swatches within a reasonably sized space.

Please Adobe, go back to the old size. Roll back this unwelcome change - or at least SUPPORT the old size.

I'm on a 15" Macbook Pro Retina with an Apple Thunderbolt display.
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Angryf

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Hey thanks for the Update.... that doesn't FIX this problem
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Ross Hughes

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Chris, is there any idea of when we might expect the update for this issue?
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Chris Cox

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I can't give time frames.  But this is on my list, and will happen.
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Monica McGregor

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Thanks so much for listening!
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Chris Gralapp

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Another vote for the smaller swatch palette!   I have a 30 inch monitor set at 2560 x 1600, and the swatches really do take up too much real estate on my display.  It seems counter-intuitive for Adobe (I love Adobe, don't get me wrong) to put so much energy into minimizability of the interface, and then drop tis big swatch palette on us.  Maybe add a third option of mini swatches alongside the large and small?
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Its been sometime since the update, this is the smallest possible option. If they're going to include additional size why not make the previous "Large" as Medium instead? The current Small size are just way too gigantic for me to work comfortably.

 
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Chris Cox

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The large size is needed for some tablet devices, where you can't see or hit small swatches easily.  But adding a "smallest" or "tiny" size is possible.
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Ross Hughes

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I'm sold.
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Cy

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Yes Chris that would be a wonderful solution, for both legacy and retina resolution. So a "Tiny " option will still best to have.
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Cy

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It's been months, did adobe acknowledge this issue yet? Aren't user front end problems should be higher priority than rare bug fixes? I mean it's there, in-our-face...
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Chris Gralapp

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I have reverted to using 2014 for the time being,   The swatches claim too much of my valuable workspace as they are
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The new minimum swatch size is a serious problem for me as well since my monitor is only 1920x1080. Please change the current sizes to "medium" and "large" and add the old minimum back as "small."

edit: I see Chris Cox said this would be addressed. Thank you! Please add me as one more person voting for a priority fix.
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I just updated Photoshop and these new Color Swatch sizes are horrible. Please offer a smaller size. Please.
Eyes are trained to scan left to right. Now I have to look all over for colors because they aren't lined up correctly, plus its interfering with my pallet -_- A huge interference with my art process.

Please update.
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It's not the only cartoon feature in this release, do Adobe receive customer feedback  from a creche?
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Angryf

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So It's been 3 months and I think 3 updates to address this issue!  Come ON ADOBE... we are just asking for you to bring something back that has been STANDARD on every other CC release... when is it going to happen?
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Kip Henderson

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I have the same problem. it's really frustrating.
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Charles

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Same for me. Swatches size is way too big now. Please go back! There is absolutely no need for making them larger. What was the reason they changed it at all?
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Junkyard Sam

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It's a small thing to fix... I feel like they're holding out thinking we'll get used to it. But I'm working at QHD+ resolution and they're still too big. Please, Adobe. It's time to fix this. It's a daily annoyance.
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I'm following this thread waiting for some good news... nothing yet?
I'll keep waiting for that thing that I use everyday and actually it's almost a problem:
again: the color swatches smallest size is a giant feet inside my screen!
Please, fix it ASAP!
Thx
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right? Adobe has given lip service about this but no fix... WTF?
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It's odd to see a thread this long about this O_O I haven't had an issue at all with this even with a new install of Photoshop just last weekend, up until an update yesterday morning and suddenly BAM, giant swatches.
I'm not sure how I'd avoided this problem up until now but it's really frustrating (made even more so that it's only like that currently on one out of the 3 computers I'm running PS on)
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Chris Cox

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Photoshop hasn't had an update since January.
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Luke Mancini

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So I guess I was just lucky that for some reason the initial install of PS on a new computer was CC 2015 and not CC 2015.1?
(Which I've since rolled back to for a number of other frustrating reasons)
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the new larger size for the smallest swatch setting is ruining my life.  a little dramatic lol but why would you make them so big they take up half my display now!
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Alexander Loumos

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Would love to see this update made - the new "small" being made a "medium" setting, and with the old swatch size as the new "small". Causing some maddening problems with screen layout and work habits.
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I can't Believe Adobe hasn't not addressed this at all! ...at least they could tell us it's not a bug it's a feature (terrible feature that is)
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Jeffrey Tranberry, Sr. Product Manager, Digital Imaging

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Chris has stated that he's worked on this and it should be in our next update.
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Alex Dukal

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Great. Any confirmed date for the next update?
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Jeffrey Tranberry, Sr. Product Manager, Digital Imaging

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No. We've never been able to provide specific dates. I will update this topic once it's fixed so you will get a notification
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Alex Dukal

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Many thanks.
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Jeffrey Tranberry, Sr. Product Manager, Digital Imaging

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Robert Hall

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Oh well Trolled Adobe, played indeed! we asked for the swatch to be resized back to the original size, and you give us this!?!
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Alex Dukal

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Applause! Thx
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I want to say "Thank you," and I will for the effort, but I have a very specific way of using the swatch palette and "most recent swatches" row, and this arrangement does not restore us back to where we were before the huge swatches made their appearance. I'll be staying in 2014 for palette work. If there's any way to fix the recent swatches row to "tiny" as an option in the future, that would be lovely. Thanks, anyway.
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It also looks like the swatches panel doesn't resize as small in CC 2015.5 as cc 2014 did and therefore throws off any custom swatch arrangements in the Tiny Thumbnail setting.

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Hi Everyone.  Thanks for your comments and descriptions on the swatch size problem.  I just checked in a fix so now...   TINY THUMBS EVERYWHERE!   That is, I added a Tiny Thumbnail menu selection when editing colors on the tool options bar, in the preset manager, and in the swatch flyout when editing paths.  The fix is *not* part of the 19.1 release we just did and I can't really tell you when we will next push from mainline, but I wanted to let you all know the problem has been addressed.  Also, I got a lot of satisfaction fixing a "small" problem that for some people means so much, so thanks for helping make it a priority.  
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Thank you, David. We graphic designers appreciate acknowledgment that we are designing on desktop computers, not tablets!
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Official Response
This issue should be fixed with the Photoshop CC 2018 (19.1.2) update which is now available. 
Please install the update and let us know if you still see this issue.

To update, click Update next to Photoshop CC in the Creative Cloud desktop application.
If you don't see the update right away, click the 3 dots in the upper right and choose Check for App Updates.

Regards
Pete
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I don't see any difference between photoshop cc 19.1.2 and 19.1 or photoshop  cc 2017.

Shown below are screenshots using the Default swatches at the smallest size for the relevant photoshop versions.

Photoshop CC 2018.1.2




Photoshop CC 2017




If the person or persons working on the swatches sizes wants to know how the smallest swatch size is supposed to be arranged and size of the swatches panel., just have them look at photoshop cc 2014 and older.

Photoshop CC 2014

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Pete and Monica,

If I understand you, the problem is when Tiny Thumbnails is selected for swatch size, then at the narrowest possible size of the swatches panel, there are 18 swatches in each row, so that similar colors are not aligned vertically.  In Ps CC 2014, with swatch size set to "Small Thumbnails" the panel could accommodate as few as 16 swatches in a row, and vertical alignment was correct.  

The problem seems to be the minimum width of the swatches panel is too large now.  I'll enter a new bug for this problem specifically.  

David
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Smaller panels would be nice, at least for the basic palette's sake.

As an alternative, it would be nice to be able to arrange the swatches arbitrarily (having blanks where needed).