ELEMENTS 14 - Guided Mode Does Not Show Photo in Main Window

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I want the photo I have opened to be shown in the main window in Elements 14 when I am in Guided mode, instead of just sitting in the photo bin. How can I do this?
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What happens if you click any guided edit to launch its options?
Do you not see the photo opened in the main ui with guided edit option on the right?
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Yes, but I want the photo to be in the main window all the time, just as it was in Elements 11 and as it is in the Quick option. I want the editing options on the side, where they should be. It is very annoying to see all the editing features in the main window and a tiny copy of the photo you are wanting to edit down in the photo bin. That is backwards.
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John,

I am bit confused with your statement above. When you enter any guided edit, you will see the photo in main window. It is just like how it used to be in earlier version of Elements.

See the attached screenshot. It shows the Brightness and Contrast Guided Edit with an image open.

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Just to clarify, when you click on Guided at the top of the bar, you will land into Guided Edit mode. Here, you will see different guided edits available. The opened image would be shown in the photo bin.

But when you select any of the guided edit to start its workflow, you will see the image opened in full in the main window and guided edit options on the right hand side.
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Yes, when you select an edit mode, the photo then shows up, but when I double click on a photo and it automatically opens Elements in Guided mode, the main viewing window is occupied with all the editing options and the photo just sits in the photo bin. In the old Elements 11 version, the photo was shown in the main window and the editing options are on the right side. That is how I want it to be in Elements 14. The way it works, I want my Elements 11 back!
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I realize that the photo appears in the main window when I select an editing feature, but I want to see the photo before I select an editing feature, and I don't want to have to toggle between Quick and Guided modes. I want the editing modes in a menu bar on the side. It does not make any sense to have the editing modes taking up the main window and the photo you want to edit not be in the main window. I want the editing possibilities on the side, not dominating the viewing window.
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Would it be possible to trade in my Photoshop Elements 14 for my old Photoshop Elements 11? I would love to do that! I don't like Version 14 at all. I have my registration info that I could send you.
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I have elements 11 and I agree, I hate this feature on 14 too - I only upgraded to 14 because of the new fur and feathers outline for animals/birds
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Good to know that I am not the only one who dislikes this!

Another problem is that, after you have edited a photo in the Guided mode, you can choose to continue to edit in Quick mode, but not in Guided mode. I don't understand why you cannot stay in Guided mode. I use Guided mode the most often by far.

I like Photoshop Elements, but I think they have lost touch with what works and what their users want. I think Version 11 was just fine.
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I think I have found a workaround. Go into QUICK mode and select Before and After view (to the left of the screen opposite the zoom slider), then select editing options from the drop down menu under enhance (the selections below the auto fixes). These appear to be the more common or frequent editing options that are provided under the GUIDED mode
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Thanks for the suggestion.

But that is still very convoluted. I don't want two photos in the main window. I only want one copy of the photo I am editing, and I want the editing options for the Guided mode on the right side, just as they are for the Quick mode and where they used to be for Guided.

It seems to me that they should be able to fix this problem very easily.
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John,

The options for Guided mode are still on the right side. We have just changed the way you get into any particular Guided edit. Instead of a right hand side list, we have made the selection more easier in the Guided edit selection screen. So, now you can navigate through various Guided edits easily, see their before and after preview samples on the selection screen itself and click on anyone which you want to go into. But, after clicking on any Guided edit (to enter its workflow), you see the same edit options (on the right) as in past versions.

Also, if you do not want to go to Quick or Expert mode after you are done with any particular Guided edit, just click on [Done] check mark at the bottom right corner. And you will land back into the Guided Edit selection screen where you can choose any other Guided edit and enter into its workflow.

I am confused about your exact issues here.
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The issue I and at least one other person has is that Elements 14 has its Guided edit options plastered on the main screen; they are not on a right-hand side menu bar as you suggest they are. This is a huge departure from the way Elements 11 worked. If it were possible to have the Guided mode work exactly the way the Quick mode does, that would be fine. Having to switch back and forth between Quick and Guided so you can always see the photo you are editing in the main viewing window is crazy. Honestly, I would be happy to get Elements 11 back--it made way more sense in how the editing worked. Unfortunately, I no longer have that computer.

Putting the Guided edit options in the main viewing window was a big mistake. i don't need a visual example of what those options do--I want to see the photo I am editing there so I can zoom and decide which edits I want to use.
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Akshaya Saxena (employee), How can you be confused with the issues John and I have clearly spelled out. Compare Elements 11 to 14 in the guided mode and hopefully you will understand - if you still don't know, then you shouldn't be the one on this forum attempting to help. There is no valid reason for changing the way the guided screen should look from previous versions, especially when the other editing screens remained unchanged. Oh, and how convenient of Adobe not to have phone support for Elements - I just tried to call this morning to express my frustration at this change. What a waste of my money buying this upgrade.
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I am not trying to help anyone. I am trying to get someone from Adobe to help me. And I am not the only one looking for the help, apparently. Adobe is not reachable by chat or email or phone. You do not understand my issue, that's all.
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John, I was not targeting this response to you - it was for the "employee" named
Akshaya - see the first line of my comment - Rosanna
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John and Rosanna,

The point I am trying to make is that

- The main window where you see all the Guided Edits is just a selection screen.
- You select one of them by clicking on the Guided Edit card and go into that particular Guided Edit
- Once you are in that particular Guided Edit, you will have all the editing options available to you on the right hand side and the image will be shown in main window
- Once you are done editing for that particular Guided Edit, you can click the green checkmark at the bottom to go back to Guided Edit selection screen
- Once there, you can select any other Guided Edit and go into its workflow. There is no need to switch between Quick and Guided for that.

Here are the screenshots for same workflow







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Adobe, get rid of the first (and last) screen shot in this series of images.  Its like bloatware on a smart phone.  What was Adobe thinking?

What will it take to get Adobe to listen to customers?
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Once again, Akshaya, you missed the point - yes can see your image in the main screen, but only AFTER you have selected an edit, and then have to go back to those VERY ANNOYING images to select another. Version 11 showed ALL the editing options available to choose from in the right panel, while your image REMAINED on the main screen. I don't like the idea of not having my image constantly in the main screen AT ALL TIMES. If Adobe saw fit to leave the QUICK and EXPERT modes, alone, why the heck did they need to mess with the GUIDED mode? THOSE SAMPLE PHOTOS ARE VERY ANNOYING AND I HATE THEM BEING THERE and that statement is in all caps to make sure Adobe understands how FRUSTRATING this is. I feel like I just wasted my money on this upgrade because GUIDED is the option I used most and this only makes me angry having to use it this way.
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Yes. There has been a change from Elements 11 (or Elements 13 for that matter) and Elements 14 in the way to initiate a particular Guided Edit.

If you feel that Elements 11 or Elements 13 way was much better for you and you want to stick to that way only, it can be downloaded from this link https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop-ele...
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Since it requires a Serial Number, does that means I would have pay (again) to download another version
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That is a good question by Rosanna. Do we need to pay again, or could we just use the serial number from Elements 14?
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John and Rosanna,

If you have already bought an older version, you do not need to buy it again. See the first section in the link (https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop-ele...) about how to find your serial number.
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Akshaya, I no longer have either the computer I had Elements 11 on nor the disc for it.  It was a long time ago, and I probably did not register it.  So I have no way of finding the serial number for it.  I do have the serial number for the Elements 14 I recently purchased, however.  Is there any way I could use that serial number to download Elements 11 for free?  I did, in fact, buy Elements not long ago; I just didn't realize that I would dislike the new version so much.  Can I use my Elements 14 info to get Elements 11 back?
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John,

Can you log into your Adobe account to check if it lists your Elements 11 serial number? You can get the steps to log in and find your serial number in 'Lost your Serial Number' section on this page - https://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/g...

You cannot use Elements 14 serial number for Elements 11. The best way would be to check your Adobe account for details. Please try above mentioned steps.
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No, I have already tried that, and I cannot find any information for the Elements 11 serial number. I honestly don't know if I ever registered it.
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John Beauparlant

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Is there any way to retrieve a serial number from the computer on which Elements 11 is installed?
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Akshaya Saxena, Employee

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Do you have that computer in working state? Is Elements 11 installed and running on it?
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Yes. I do not have it, but Elements 11 is running on that computer and I could get that information from it.
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Great. If you still have Elements 11 running on it, just register now from Elements. And then you can log into the Adobe account used while registration to get the serial number.

Once you have the serial number, you can have the software setup on your new machine.
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Akshaya, My daughter cannot figure out how to retrieve the serial number from Elements 11.  Do you have any detailed instructions?
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I too find the elements 14 guided interface ridiculous.  What I'm seeing here is a group of programmers insisting that their way is better, in spite of the people who purchased their product telling them that it's not.  You've lots to learn Adobe!

There aren't that many more features in guided, and, as was stated earlier in this thread, we don't care how the effect looks on some stock photography picture, only the ones we took.

Now, please don't repeat all of your answers on how "Its still there"  we know it's there, its all over the place there!  Please stack it back up, plug in some scroll bars, and put it back on the right edge where it belongs.

Thanks!
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