Lightroom Desktop: Group user presets into "folders"

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Summary
I've just migrated from Lightroom Classic (5.7) to Lightroom CC and am struggling with the presets. I would like to have some form of hierarchy to help organize presets.

Background:
I've got dozens, if not a hundred or two different presets I've imported into Lightroom from Classic. In Classic, I was able to organize these into logical groups ... for example, the VSCO presets I purchased several years ago were in "folders" for each film pack. "VSCO 00, 01, etc". This helped me quickly identify a preset I wanted to apply to a specific image.

Problem:
In the new, cloud-based Lightroom, these are a flat list. This list is rather long and it's difficult to scroll through it to find the preset I want.

Proposal:
I'd like to be able to group my presets into more folders than just "User Presets". It doesn't need to be a complex hierarchy; if I could even put one level of folders underneath "User Presets", I believe that would help dramatically.
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Erich Musick

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Victoria Bampton - Lightroom Queen, Champion

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Right-click on a preset and choose Move to Group. That'll let you create new preset folders/groups.
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Erich Musick

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Thanks, Victoria! That works once I've created groups ... but any insights as to how I can create a new group without modifying the XMP files?
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No, the groups are stored as text within the XMP now, rather than as OS folders, which then enables them to sync across multiple devices.
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The presets are stored in the cloud, so there are no physical groups/folders.
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Thanks, Victoria, Johan!

I think this is an opportunity for Adobe to improve the user experience. The Lightroom UX exposes "groups" of presets and allows me to move items between groups but *doesn't* expose the option to create a new group. I find that a bit strange. 

I realize presets are *stored* differently in Lightroom CC compared to LR Classic, but the storage mechanism should be opaque to me as a user. To get the behavior I wanted, I had to go chase down a bunch of XMP Files, understand the format, and modify the XML. Not a great user experience. 

The groups in the Lightroom UX appear to me to be a union of some predefined groupings and the group values defined across all presets.

One possible implementation, then, to add "Create":
Add "Create group" option in LR UX. 
Allow user to move preset into new group.
When user moves a preset into this group, update the XMP file; sync it to the cloud.

The obvious disadvantage is that this new group doesn't appear across devices until a preset has been added to it, but as an MVP, maybe acceptable?