Lightroom: Gamut Warning Missing

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In the Lightroom 4 Develop module ___ Soft Proofing (love it btw)
When you zoom in to 100% the Gamut (Monitor and Destination) warnings disappear even if you have them selected. With normal view the gamut warnings reappear. I don't know if this is a wanted behaviour... For me it's a bug! Cause as a Photographer you sometimes quickly wanna zoom in and look at the problem.

Maybe a feature in the final release...

Plus i miss Profiles for ProPhoto etc... It's a bit limited... Make it easier to download Profiles.... (Central Place like Adobe labs)
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We'll look into the zooming behavior you reported.

Not sure why you want to check ProPhoto ... our internal color space is based on ProPhoto primaries, so you'll never see anything outside of that space anyways (i.e., gamut warning would never show up).
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I remember choosing the ProPhoto colorspace at the initial setup of LR4. However, if my complete workflow is in AdobeRGB and I setup LR4 with AdobeRGB I might wanna change the soft proof Profile to ProPhoto. (That's where my question came from!)

This however throws a question... why is LR4 so eager to get ProPhoto as a colorspace? This is a bit of a debated topic. I remember Scott Kelby giving his vote to AdobeRGB, Martin Evening, if I recall correctly, has the same opinion. However, I'm sure the internet community has a different opinion.

Now, you have my vote when it comes to ProPhoto, however, with most camerasystems you can vote between AdobeRGB and sRGB and no ProPhoto option. Therefor, the ProPhoto-option is a strange one in my view.

But I'll stop right here... just wanna know the reason behind it all...

About the gamut warnings.... it's definitly a bug... I restarted LR4 and the behaviour was normal.... A restart later, and it was back to showing no warnings...

Fort the rest I just wanna say... As a Aperture user... (and Photoshop) this program really makes me wanna switch... All in all it feels quick and solid.

Another question:
Sadly enough, a lot of my time I am giving keywords to pictures. The only complaint I have after doing this in LR4 is that there is no dedicated workspace.... It's a bit small the UI for keywording. Is there a way of dedicating a workspace, maybe one defined by a user, just to keywording. (Just so you know, Aperture 3 dedicates more space/UI to keywording... I like that, but please do not copy Aperture, their solution is far from solid and perfect.)

Thanks for your time eric, hopefully, I'm not stealing to much of it....

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>why is LR4 so eager to get ProPhoto as a colorspace?

Because that is the underlying processing color space (at least in terms of the gamut, the gamma is a bit different).

Kelby is wrong (best to avoid listening to him on the subject of color management) and I know Martin well, he works in ProPhoto.

The ‘problem’ with Adobe RGB is the color gamut is too small for modern raw workflows. There are many Inkjet printers who’s gamut exceeds Adobe RGB (1998) so you will not use all the color info potential in the data when printing to such devices. This Adobe white paper might also help explain why ProPhoto:
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Consumer desktop printers are still mostly within Adobe RGB gamut. Some of the high end/pro devices (HP wide format) do exceed the Adobe RGB gamut.

ProPhoto has a larger gamut, but you need to remember to work in 16 bit to avoid quantization problems.
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Just ordered LR4...

Thanks for all the info guys...

Andrew, I'll be on the lookout for your book. It's time I'll get my color management work flow in order.. and that means some investment.. time wise surely, hopefully not too much money...

As a cameraman for television I know my way around the calibration of a tv camera... It's easy, as long as you got the right equipment... With photography it seems it's very difficult through the use of all those profiles... I think even for guys like me, used to be working with color and calibration all day it's very much like seeing in the dark.

But anyway, thanks for all your help guys!