Lightroom: How do 'deselect' a preset I've applied?

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1) How did I get here? I was in LR Forums trying to find out how to post - searching for the new post page, frustrated, clicked on a bugs button and here I am on another forum?
2)The Q I wanted to post was about LR presets in LR3. Just started using it and cannot see how to deselect a preset, other than using "undo," which is not right. Can't even see which presets have been selected. The one I just clicked on to select it will be highlighted, when I move on it's not. So I can't look at the list and see what's been selected (applied) and I can't deselect. No check boxes. Help!!
3) Any clue how to find the "new post" link in LR forums? It's not on the main page and I looked at every button there (wound up here) I do believe. Did a search for it and no results.
4) Perfect. Now I've registered and logged in to a new site, even created the compulsory "personal URL," (I just want to post a question!), the page I'm on is complete and happy with me, and the post button is greyed out. SO I'M FRUSTRATED EVEN WORSE NOW!
STARTED ALL OVER AND MAYBE NOW?

Help!
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John, take a deep breath. It's going to be ok. :-)

1. LR Forums isn't Adobe's own forum, so for people to make official bug reports, we direct people over here to Adobe's bug report/feature request form.

2. Presets just move sliders to new positions, so to undo a preset, you do undo or click an earlier history state. In the History panel you'll see listed the presets when you've applied them. There are no checkboxes to deselect presets, because you may have done other things since, such as move a slider again.

3. Click in a forum in which you want to post - i.e. General Discussions http://www.lightroomforums.net/forumd... and there's a new thread button just below the link you clicked to come here. We can go into more detail over there and answer your questions more fully than we can here.
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Thanks for the response. Now I know how I got here! And I'm going to try the link you gave me and try to figure out why I couldn't get there before right after this post.

As to the presets, in LR2 there were check boxes (don't have access to it just now but I know I was able to see what was selected and to unselect), and going to the sliders affected by a preset to undo it seems cumbersome, plus you very well might not even know which sliders were moved, much less how much. While what you point out about possibly having moved a slider since the preset makes some sense, you set a preset, get a result you don't like, there should be a one click unselect, There was in LR2, unless I'm really wigging out, and I'm pretty sure it was checkboxes. Digging through history and hoping you aren't too many steps away from the selection you want to undo doesn't seem workable and would be a good reason to stay away from presets altogether. As I have so far in LR3. Again, Thanks.
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The preset system hasn't changed between LR2 and LR3, but in either version there are checkboxes when you create the preset in the first place - perhaps that was what you're thinking of.
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You're so right. I was shocked when I saw that - later in the day I'm at a computer with both versions present, so I looked . . .. Sometimes it sucks to be me. Still, I can't shed the notion that in LR2 I was able to "try out" presets and reject them without using undo.

The "checkboxes" you mention and I remember are the same in both versions and I can't figure out what they are but they're not functioning as check boxes for me. The're just Icons. They don't seem to do anything and I don't know their meaning.

In messing with the boxes I managed to select "B&W Creative - Cynaotype." Now, if that's an important shot, and I want to continue working with it in LR, perhaps that illustrates my view of the difficulty of using presets - if not, suppose I'd managed to set several presets before seeing that I needed to reverse them. I'm not going to be able - and no one is going to want to - find and reset all those sliders to their original positions. You might have run out of "undo" or not want to undo every move since the preset selection. I suppose you'd have to change the name and re-import, or use some such workaround.

As a practical matter, most of the time when you select a preset you know right away if you want it or not. Which would make a "deselect" option workable, but it also means undo is workable. Just doesn't seem clean and isn't a "one click" fix.

Thanks again.