Folder Creation Horror

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I have looked for a solution to this many times and always have empty hands.

Issue: The new LR Classic creates a folder with images on my C: drive under my username on every import. The older version never did this.

Here is my workflow so you understand my issue.

Example: I shot a wedding Saturday, 3000 images. My process is to first upload all the images I shot to a secondary drive on my PC. Then, I need to sort through 3000 images and find the keepers. For a wedding, it's about a 20% save rate, meaning I will have 600 images that I like to process. 

Now I have two folders that I have sorted to, Folder A is the 600 keepers and folder B is the trash folder.

I open LR and go to import. I drag my saved images into the software and it imports the images. I then group them and establish a collection under a hierarchy etc etc. 

The RAW images are on my other drive, but LR creates a folder under my user on C and duplicates the entire 600 images. I then have to go to Develop mode and then delete the folder on the C drive. Then when I see "Image not found" I search to the drive where the images are and re-establish the source. 

The old LR never did this, it would leave my source folder as the root for the images.

I want to stop LR Classic from always creating new folders on my C drive, forcing me to then delete that folder and point it back to where the images are on the other internal drive.

Is there a way to have it just recognize that the images are on the other drive and leave that as the source? A setting on import or something I am missing???

I hope this makes sense. No one at Adobe seems to grasp what I am telling them.
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Robert Somrak, Champion

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Just use ADD in import and the images will stay where they are.
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RICHARD CASSEL

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I believe this is correct, what operating system are you on?
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Robert Cullen

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Seems obvious-

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Ruurd van Dijk

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Yep, obvious for me too. Nevertheless, strange workflow...
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Roelof Moorlag

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The add option is the solution here bur reconsider your workflow. Why don’t you do all the soeting and culling in Lightroom? After all it’s a photo manager first.
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Because it is brutally slow that's why. Have you every uploaded 3K-5K images and tried to sort? I shoot sports mostly and I might have up to 6K images to go through and the save rate there is only about 10%. I can sort through 4K images in about 90 minutes by hand. In LR it would take 8-10 hours with its interface. 
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Roelof Moorlag

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Yes, i upload more shots even. You don't have to make 1:1 previews on import and you don't have to wait for it. Leave the computer some time alone and come back later. You will see that your workflow can be a lot more efficient that way.
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Ruurd van Dijk

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I call that Importing a coffee-break moment...!! ;) But since the last update it's less worse, I think. Even Lr doesn't time out when I want to edit in Ps (ctrl-E) without starting Ps first. But Adobe created some other problems fore that, I saw... ;)
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It has nothing to do with upload times. The issue when sorting 6000 images is the ability to very quickly see what is a keeper and what is trash. LR is not designed for that. Just to go from one image to the next takes way too much time and it slogs like crap when the collection has a large number of images.
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When you import, choose Embedded and Sidecar. LR then uses the embedded previews (or a full size JPEG if the raw file doesn't contain one). PhotoMechanic does do this kind of preview-based reviewing faster, but Embedded and Sidecar is designed for this kind of workflow.  And unlike PM, it lets you adjust images which is sometimes needed as part of this review/cull phase .

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You probably missed the fact that your preferences were unexpectedly changed by the upgrade.  Some bright idea by an Adobe developer.  I caught this one, and there are others. Why they had to basically 'juggle' the preferences is beyond me.

Your comment regarding performance is correct.  With large imports, Lightroom is extremely slow, and I cannot afford to waste time on extended coffee breaks.  I use Photo Mechanic to extract from the folders on my RAID array (where I keep all of my images) after I have downloaded them from the memory cards.  I use the Lexar tower, so I can download from four (4) cards at once.

Photo Mechanic is blazingly fast, allowing me to cull, sort, and apply keywords.  Then it will import the images into Lightroom.  Now I have to wait on LR, but at least I have four (4) steps of my workflow complete—download, sort, cull, keyword—and while LR chugs along, I can go back to Photo Mechanic and work on the next shoot (or the next day of the same shoot).

Yes, Lightroom is a Photo Manager.  So is Photo Mechanic (after a fashion).

A Yugo is an automobile, but so too is a Ferrari.  Which would you rather drive?
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Roelof Moorlag

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Did you read the comments? Your 'work arround' is to choose "Add" on import. Then your images will not be removed and there will be no duplicates.
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And also use this option at Import- then Lightroom does not waste time creating its own Previews until it has some 'idle' time.
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john beardsworth

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You can open the Import dialog and run through each photo in the dialog's Loupe view without taking them photos off the card. You might deselect all photos and then go through hitting P for all the selects - only those items will be copied off the card. Or leave all selected and hit X for those you want to leave on the card.
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This works if you want to 'Add' but it still leaves the images on the memory card, which is NOT a good idea.  Memory cards can die without notice.  The safest workflow is to copy (or move) the images from the cards to a backed up hard drive, and then import in the most efficient manner you'd like.
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Roelof Moorlag

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You did not read the OP's question? His workflow is to first upload all the images he shot to a drive on his PC. In that situation the 'Add' option is the best one.

Did you ever try to 'Add' images from a memory card? It does not work! 
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