Lightroom: Library collection panel scrolls unexpectedly when you duplicate/rename/delete a collection set

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When you're viewing a collection set of smart collections in the Collections panel, if you duplicate/rename/delete a collection set, the viewport seems to scroll up to the bottom of the highest open collection set... The viewport should stay put on the collection set I am currently working in during these operations and not scroll for me. This can become very tedious as I make 5-7 smart collections with every collection set that I create!

Unlisted YouTube screencast of my Collections panel during these operations: https://youtu.be/AE8R_MGG3uY


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Lightroom version: CC 2015.6 [ 1078672 ]License: Creative Cloud
Operating system: Mac OS 10
Version: 10.11 [6]
Application architecture: x64
Logical processor count: 8
Processor speed: 2.7 GHz
Built-in memory: 16,384.0 MB
Real memory available to Lightroom: 16,384.0 MB
Real memory used by Lightroom: 5,237.0 MB (31.9%)
Virtual memory used by Lightroom: 6,120.2 MB
Memory cache size: 3,646.2 MB
Maximum thread count used by Camera Raw: 8
Camera Raw SIMD optimization: SSE2,AVX
Displays: 1) 2560x1440, 2) 2880x1800

Graphics Processor Info: 
NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M OpenGL Engine

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I was able to duplicate on Mac but not Windows.  A bug was filed today.  Thanks for the Demo Video!
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brett.jr.alton

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I don't have a Windows machine to test on so that extra test is much appreciated! And thank you for filing the bug!
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This should be fixed in the CC2015.8/6.8 Update. Give it a try and let us know. 
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This still occurs for me whenever I rename a collection that is currently NOT selected: https://youtu.be/zKW5vJmnYII
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did you ever get a solution to this?  I am having the same problem.
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The issue is still in-progress (see the top of this thread). While most occurrences have been fixed, there are still a few lingering places where this happens. 
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Lightroom: Collection list scroll bounce.

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See this bug report, Select multiple collections bug, for similar symptoms when you command-click a collection.  I haven't merged the topics, because it's not clear it's the same bug.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled COLLECTION PANEL JUMPS.

Whenever I add a new collection (collection set, smart collection or collection) under a collection set, the whole panel jumps down, covering the new collection just added. My request is to have the Collections Panel stay in one place when adding a sub-collection. When I add a new collection, I want to be able to use it and not have to hunt for it.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Lightroom: Collection Moving, window jumping.

When you drag and drop a collection into a collection set, once you let go, the window does this jump. It doesn't appear to jump anywhere in particular, just jumps. When trying to manage hundreds of collections its a very annoying bug.
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Wasnt able to reproduce on my Lr Classic v7.3 on Windows 10 x64 bit on my Dell XPS15 core i7-7700 laptop, but I dont have as many smart collections as the original poster so not sure if there is a # of Smart Collections it needs before this bug appears as documented.
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You need to have enough smart collections that they fill your panel as the bug is that the collection viewport jumps around upon duplicating, renaming or deleting the aforementioned collections. So you can’t reproduce the bug if you don’t have enough smart collections.
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Issue seems to be fixed with 7.2 or 7.3, Not happened that I showed on video.
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This is still an issue when renaming collections. The viewport skips around and doesn't keep focus, rather resetting to the collection that is currently selected. Very frustrating when cleaning up your collections!

Lightroom's Collections Viewport Moves on Rename: https://youtu.be/aflhWQeU02U
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Lightroom Classic 8.3 was released today and contained a fix for this issue. Please update to 8.3 and verify that you are no longer seeing the issue. Thank you!
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This wasn't fixed for me. I right-clicked a collection set, clicked "Create Collection Set...", wrote my title, clicked "Create" and then the left panel under "Collections" moved up, again, to the highest, already opened collection set, which happened to be at the top. I had to scroll all the way back down, trying to traverse the tree of open collections to find where I was before.
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I'm the OP of this bug so I thought I should make another video and post my system info again.

Video: https://youtu.be/qbA7h77WA90

System info:

Lightroom Classic version: 8.3 [ 201905061635-edecdfdb ]
License: Creative Cloud
Language setting: en-CA
Operating system: Mac OS 10
Version: 10.14.4 [18E226]
Application architecture: x64
Logical processor count: 8
Processor speed: 2.7 GHz
Built-in memory: 16,384.0 MB
Real memory available to Lightroom: 16,384.0 MB
Real memory used by Lightroom: 5,847.2 MB (35.6%)
Virtual memory used by Lightroom: 11,128.3 MB
Memory cache size: 1,205.8MB
Internal Camera Raw version: 11.3 [ 197 ]
Maximum thread count used by Camera Raw: 5
Camera Raw SIMD optimization: SSE2,AVX
Camera Raw virtual memory: 1628MB / 8191MB (19%)
Camera Raw real memory: 1630MB / 16384MB (9%)
Displays: 1) 2560x1440, 2) 2880x1800

Graphics Processor Info: 
Metal: NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M



Application folder: /Applications/Adobe Lightroom Classic
Library Path: /Users/brett/Pictures/Lightroom/Brett Alton Photography-2-2-2-2.lrcat
Settings Folder: /Users/brett/Library/Application Support/Adobe/Lightroom

Installed Plugins: 
1) AdobeStock
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3) Athentech PerfectlyClear
4) Facebook
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8) Nikon Tether Plugin
9) Show Focus Points

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Thanks for the video. I've reopened the issue. 
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Would you like me to record a 5 minute video of my workflow process? When I need to make new folders, a number of smart collections to stay organized, it seems to be quite a battle to always be scrolling and really takes time away from editing photos. I know I should be looking at Lightroom CC but my entire collection and everything I'm used to is in Classic.
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"I know I should be looking at Lightroom CC"

Adobe insists that LR Classic is not an end-of-life product and is getting full support and development resources, so there shouldn't be any reason to look at LR CC unless you really want the cloud features.
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I have the same issue, LR 8.3.1, Mac 10.14.5.
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Lightroom Classic 8.4 was released today and contained a fix for this issue. Please update to 8.4 and verify that you are no longer seeing the issue. Thank you!
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I believe this has been fixed for me, but I've now moved to Lightroom CC for workflow purposes so... oh well. But thank you for fixing the bug!
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I am running Lightroom version 8.4 [201908011719-03751b60] - 


The PANELS on both sides i.e. Collections on Left AND the Keywords on Right including the other ones on the right BOUNCE UP AND DOWN which has resulted in 4X the amount of time in any workflow and a serious frustration in getting through any Editing or reorganizing of data. 

4X the time on a small group of images.
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A video showing your issue might be helpful as I am not seeing what you are describing. Would that be possible to obtain?  Please include your system specifications as well. 
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It is exactly as the other video posted earlier on this platform by another user. Exactly the same issue on the Collections Panel and Keywords Panel, i.e. bouncing up and down. 

In addition - the Title, Caption and Headline fields do NOT show the full Text. This means for every image one is obligated to click to see what text it contains in that field which means a loss of time of 10X as the workflow is continuously being harassed






And, images in a Collection are showing up as not in a collection. 





ALSO - Populated published Smart Collections are showing up as empty as Lightroom does not read the EXACT parameters such as Keywords or Collections. 

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Lightroom does not show Smart Collections as they are transient in nature. Only Static Collections will be shown in this flyout. 

This and the Full Text in fields issues would be feature requests. This is already requested on the forum. Please take the time to add your voice to that request.

You may want to consider making a feature request (Posting as an Idea) regarding Smart Collections in the Go to Collection - flyout as well.  
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Feature or not, it is detrimental to a workflow for serious pro users!!! That is your problem. I am not an employee of Adobe. PUT THE REQUEST in yourself as you are the employee of Adobe TO FIX THIS ISSUE as it hampers workflow. 
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Amyn, there's no need to be rude. A feature request from a user on this site, where other users can also vote on the requests they feel are highest priority, holds far more weight than a member of staff randomly suggesting something. Rikk is just trying to help you get the result you want. 
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Fixed for me. Thank you so very much. 
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This issue is NOT fixed and causes serious loss of time hi-pro users like myself. It is a memory hog and takes 4-8X the amount of time to get thru what would take a minute!! FIX IT PLEASE!!!