Elements 13.1 - Find by details (metadata) not working

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Just got Elements 13.1 (on my Mac). I've got about 22,000 images on a NAS. When I search for items using the following search, I get no results:

Keyword includes "www" AND
Folder contains "2015-06" (one of my folders)

When I instead use:

Folder contains "2015-06" AND
Keyword includes "www"

Elements Organizer stops responding, and the CPU is pegged to 100%. I've given it 15 minutes, still no response when I click anywhere in the app.

I have 6 files which are in the 2015-06 folder and have the 'www' tag. Not sure why this is so slow.

Can anyone else see the same problem? Thanks!
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Michel BRETECHER, Champion

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I have seen one report of a similar behaviour. When you join a criteria based on folders and a normal one by keywords, the search may be dramatically slow. The search for "201-06" may be very quick though, so the workaround would be to assign a temporary keyword (like 2015temp) to those files and do a search for:
Keyword is "2015temp"
AND
Keyword includes "www"
You should get your results in a few seconds.
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Thanks Michel,

Yes, I thought of that, but it doesn't really work for what I need. Also note the related but different problem that the order of the search either causes a hang or no results.

What I'm trying to do is tag all of my photos, which are arranged in one folder per month, with a tag for those photos which I want to share through the web. I'd then like to be able to bulk export that group. Are you saying that I would need to tag every photo to accomplish this? Or does anyone have suggestions of how to better accomplish this?

Since I'm on a Mac, Elements does not support watch folders, so when I add some old content, I have to do a full rescan. Manually tagging the folders of each seems like a lot of work to workaround this problem.

thanks!
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You have subfolders by months.
Are those months the same as the month of the 'date taken' of the photo?
That would enable forgetting the name of the folder.
You create a 'saved search' based on 3 criteria:
- Date taken is posterior to {last day of previous month}
AND
-Date taken is anterior to {first day of next month}
AND
Keyword is 'www'

Once the search is saved, it's quick to open the 'saved search' panel, highlight the saved search and click on the option button on the top to edit the saved search for another month;

Edit:
I don't use watched folders except for very specific needs. I have found that scanning manually for one month or even a year is quick enough. How long does it take for you to scan a typical month folder ?
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Well now why didn't I think of that?? Thanks a lot, Michel. Great suggestion, and it does work very well.

Re scanning, it took a few hours to scan all the photos. I'm just excited to finally have a good cataloging tool, so every time I find a new set of photos somewhere, I upload them and then try to rescan. :-)

Again, thanks a lot. A great feature of Elements looks to be this active community of helpful people.