Photoshop: Ability to select Gradient Tool and the attributes of that tool with an Action

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I love Actions in photoshop. I really love Scripts when they can do what I want. I would really like to see Gradients and their attributes changes so that they could be included in an Action.
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Dennis Nisbet

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Howdy Dennis,

Could you tell me a little bit more about the problem that you're encountering.  I just tried it with the latest release and I can activate the Gradient tool, switch patterns, edit the new pattern, and then apply it via an Action.  Does this not work for you?  Perhaps I'm misunderstanding.

Thanks,
David
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Within an ACTION, I want to select Gradient and the attributes of that Gradient so that he next time the Action runs, regardless of what is presently selected, the Gradient tool and the pre-selected attributes will be selected.
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By this method not gradient is recorded to the action but Tool Preset that already has all options of Gradient (you ealrier set manually) before recording your choises). So when Action is stopping to let user apply some Gradient settings they are already set that nothing has to be selected, but directly used to an image.

Regarding mask (not layer) it's recorded too, however even when you do it manually gradient used on mask looks differently than on layer.
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Thanks for getting back to me on this.
I thought for a moment that you might have hit on something I didn't already know.
In order for this process to work and help developers like me create something that Photoshop Users of all expertise levels can use with confidence, many things in Photoshop should be changed.
However, I am not so naive as to believe it will ever happen.  There are many requests that have been on the books for years.  Good ideas that never get implemented.
When you are the one-thousand-pound gorilla called Adobe, the only act in town, you can do whatever you want.
I've been working with Photoshop since Photoshop 2. Since that time I've seen many huge improvements! Some of them surpass anything that any other company has produced.
As Photoshop evolves, there is a lot of third-party crap that is being eliminated. That's a GOOD thing!
However, in my experience, Adobe also turns a deft ear to many realistic requests.
In this case, I was trying to create something with very limited user input. 
I had already created an Action with a STOP and instructions to the user that was necessary because I could not automate part of the process.
Thank you for your help. Sorry you didn't hit on something new to me.
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I agree that you said about Adobe. Too bad we can't have some proposed by users stuff that would improve our work. Unfortunately all shows they won't be implemented.

I understand you wanted to have something that can be done easier and more intuitive way than using Tool Presets. It's okey.

I have only to ask does that 'workaround' with Tool Preset works for you after all, did it give the same result as that you'd like that happened other way? Not that isn't new for you, simply is that working but for your reasons you don't want to use it?
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I don't understand... do you want to the user to make the gradient mask or for that to be part of the script? When i create an action that adds a linear b/w gradient to a mask, that step is definitely recorded in the action... If all you need is to make sure it's black to white, just use the D key in the action.
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I don't understand... do you want to the user to make the gradient mask or for that to be part of the script? When i create an action that adds a linear b/w gradient to a mask, that step is definitely recorded in the action... If all you need is to make sure it's black to white, just use the D key in the action.
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As I said in my previous comment, I had already done the workaround you suggested before I made my initial request for a feature.
It is just a Mikey Mouse approach that requires the user to do more than is necessary.
Thanks for trying to help.
This forum might be good for a lot of people but for me, I wound up doing a lot of typing to no avail.
I'm guessing that this forum does little more than providing an avenue for people like me to vent.
Not the best use of my time.
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If we can't expect something will change for better it's good reason to try to do something on your own. That's good you can script. It's surely not the same as Ps function to do that you want, but what else you can do... Only write a script and combine it with action to get desired effect. GL! :)
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<I'm guessing that this forum does little more than providing an avenue for people like me to vent.
Not the best use of my time.<
It does do more than allow for venting as you now have an feature request (idea) out here for people to vote on,  it will remain in the system for a very long time, and the Adobe people who devote a lot of their spare time to this forum do pay attention. But nothing is done in a company just because one customer asks for it, not even if the customer is a developer.

At the least, now that you've taken the time to make a case for what you want, various people will have read it, considered it, and may chime in and ask for more than is currently possible. Actions, as you well know, are ancient—what is and is not actionable is outmoded, and updating actions to be more useful (not to mention many of the features they call upon), is a major undertaking, but I'm in favor of them doing it instead of leaving them to languish. Most of us want more, not less, that can be automated.

IOW, I think your time and effort aren't wasted here if you believe in what you're asking for and hope to make the case for many others to believe in it too. Sadly, you want results today and that's not likely to happen, but I thank you for pointing out yet another limitation in Actions and many of the old tools and filters. Keeping them aware.  '-}
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Howdy Dennis,

Cristen brings up an excellent point and I'd like to repeat it -- many Adobe employees actively scan through this forum and push for your (user) suggestions.  Now, that said, there are MANY potential features out there and, quite frankly, many only help a TINY subsegment of users while others are massive improvements.  We rely on users to share their stories with us to help us differentiate between the two and we also rely on other users chiming in when a feature request or improvment is something that would help them as well.

I hope that makes sense.
David