Face recognition in latest version of Lightroom not ready for prime time

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I downloaded the latest version of Lightroom last night and began running the Facial recognition. First the interface does not look the way it does in the tutorial. There are no "people" buttons - I had to use the "O" shortcut. The recognition is terrible, much better implementations in other - even free - products. The software is often unresponsive to changes - if you are in the "confirmed" area and try to change a name on a single photo you must do it 2 times before it is recognized. If you select multiple pictures it will change them the first time. When selecting multiple photos it will often include groups of photos you have not selected. The recognition seems much better if you select a "confirmed" person and use the list under that to begin to add to that collection. I had added peoples names as keywords in my prior catalog, but it seems to ignore that data. It also adds many incorrect people to the "confirmed" area without asking if they are correct.
Not bad for beta software, but this wasn't ready for a full release - surprisingly poor execution - your software is normally much better than this. I hope it gets fixed because it will be a great feature if it works, right now it is taking more time than it will save. Adding names manually works better than what you delivered.
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That's not my experience Brian... can you tell us more?

For the People button, do you have the Grid/Loupe/Survey/Compare buttons showing? You might have hidden them in a previous release, so the People button would be missing too. If the toolbar's not showing, press T. If it is showing, click the arrow on the right-hand end to enable those buttons.

Beyond that, what are your system specifications? And is it still busy indexing your photos? If so, that would be slowing it down significantly.
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You are correct about the button - I had the toolbar in the Develop module but not the Library module - Thanks
I let it index overnight. My catalog is fairly large - 3Gb - I don't know if that is an issue.
My computer is an 8 core video editing machine with a RAID array - I would hope that would be sufficient.
I just checked a random known person that has 28 photos listed. 6 of those I tagged. 2 others are correct, but the other 20 are people I did not tag and are not correct. I have confirmed the issue of needing to re-name people twice if you are doing individual photos. It is consistent.
I also noticed that if you are are in the "similar" list adding people after you add a photo the list will often rearrange itself. I am not sure if it is refining it's searches but it breaks your rhythm when you are trying to sort through a long list.
As far as the accuracy goes, it is wrong far more than it is right even pulling up pictures of cactus plants and giving them names.
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Mac or Windows? I agree about the Similar view. You're better off working in the main People view, which doesn't refresh as quickly. You'll also find that the Similar section is much more relaxed about suggesting people (it gets them wrong more often) than the main People view.
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Oh, and the more different people you name, the more accurate it gets.
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PC. The other problem with the refresh is that since it moves pictures around you end up having to go through the list several times because it will move pictures higher in the list even if you have moved pass them.
I can try adding a few more people. I have 20 in the list so far - but I need to go back and check again because I see some are still wrong!
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The other thing I notice is that the numbers listed for the known people are often wrong. If they are over 2 digits they will change when you mouse over the thumbnails.
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In case someone from Adobe reads this . . . People rarely show up twice in the same photo. Is there some way to *not* suggest a name if that person is already confirmed on a photo? I have 130,000+ photos. I've just begun the face recognition. On one group photo it suggested me as five different people even after I confirmed myself as one of the people in the photo. Chances are, if I'm confirmed as one of the people I'm not any of the others in the photo.
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I'm going to bump this to its own topic, because I noticed it too. It's worse for me since I have a lot of photos of my identical twin boys. Even before any of the tags are confirmed it should only suggest a person in a photo once -- it should go with whoever has the highest match score according to their algorithm. The likelihood of one person being in a photo twice is extremely small.
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I've been indexing faces on my 80,000 photos for 24 hours now. I'm at 64% as of this moment. Initially the recognition was REALLY excellent. Once I named about 10 people (my family members) it was going very well, and very accurately suggesting the right name ...

And then, it seemed to die... I got the dreaded "Lightroom is not responding.." and I had to restart my computer. I loaded Lightroom CC again, and it seemed fine. Just picked up where it was... but the Face recognition is now awful. It is suggesting the wrong names for EVERY face! It's as if the face information became corrupted.

Is there anyway to rebuild the facial information based on the people I have already named? This is frustrating because what was going fairly smoothly is now very tedious and time consuming because the facial recognition is failing now.

Any thoughts or suggestions? There do seem to be some performance issues as it goes through the indexing , it seems to slow and slow and eventually become nonresponsive.

PC / Windows 7 / 32gb RAM / NVIDIA Geforce 560 GPU
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I file my photos in a folder structure "camera/year/month/day". If I try and work on 7000 photos at a time it's real slow and becomes unresponsive. Selecting a folder further down the structure with less photos improves things (eg. 700). If I accidentally click on a folder further up I try to get out of the face recognition as quickly as possible to avoid a meltdown.
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My index completed and I have now identified all 8000+ faces in my 80000 photos. The facial recognition did not improve as I identified faces. In fact it just got worse. I still feel like something in the model is corrupted. I wonder what is actually going on underneath the hood. Does Lightroom build a sort of "fingerprint" that it uses to match each face? Is the accuracy supposed to improve as you identify more confirmed faces? In my case that didn't happen. It was accurate at first, but now it is just wrong every single time. Towards the end, I was doing a lot of drag/drop and typing to identify faces. Very rarely did Lightroom's suggestion actually get the name right.

I still wonder if there is any way to rebuild the model for each face, now that I have identified all the faces.
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I like the way the system works and it seems to pick up faces well. Unfortunately it grinds to a halt regularly, becomes too slow to work with and I end up with "Lightroom not responding" (on Windows). I've got around 120,000 photos. I can see this is going to be way faster than my old method. If I work on smaller subsets of photos it works a bit better. Looking forward to the next patch will hopefully address the performance issues.
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I should add I tag about 50 photos at a time - that's when it goes slow (and progressively slower with each 50).
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I have to agree that Lightroom Facial Recognition is completely inaccurate.
Recognition improves up to a certain point but levels out very early. Compared to Picasa or Facebook, the level of accuracy is laughable.
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I have found that the accuracy is OK (not great, but not terrible), but it is so slow it is almost unusable. I have a 2014 Macbook Pro Retina, so my machine isn't exactly an outdated, slow machine. Really disappointed in this feature in Lightroom. I hope they can overhaul it in a later version.