Elements: Please include Elements with Creative Cloud

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Why can ́t Elements products be included in Creative Cloud? In particular, Premiere Pro feels really heavy to work with. With Premiere Elements we could do alot. As a Creative Cloud member I thought that I had acsess to all Adobe products???
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TheRandy

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I agree - it should be included for the Creative Cloud Annual members
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The creative cloud includes all of the professional programs, but not the consumer programs such as Revel, Elements, and Premiere Elements. If you wish to save your files from Elements to the cloud, you can save them to Revel. Currently you an just save jpg files to Revel, but in the coming months, we will expand to other file formats.
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I get the PRO vs Consumer idea but I use Photoshop everyday at work, I use Lightroom at home to organize photos but I like Revel for sharing with family and the portability and speed of the app for iPads/iPhones. Some of the features of Photoshop Elements is great for my wife that doesn't know Photoshop. I have a subscription to Creative Cloud and it would be a major plus to have PS Elements added and a bonus if Revel was added too...
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Currently, I use lightroom and have CS5 on my windows and CS6 on my Mac. I want to begin using Creative Cloud. My son and my husband just want to have fun and get a little creative so it would be great to have one of the Elements level photoshop available to them. Thank You for having this community page.
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I use both Lightoom and Photoshop CC. However, I often recommend Photoshop Elements to less sophisticated individuals who are looking for a photo editor and don't want the large learning curve and intimidation of full Photoshop. I need to be able to help them and to do so I must have Photoshop Elements. If I must buy Elements when it updates, I will probably switch to recommending Picasa.
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Stanley, I agree and relate to your post. I am the go to person in my community because they know I am a photographer amd Graphic Artist. I guide others through all their questions and inquiries and show them how it's done without getting them discouraged. But my dilema is that of yours that Photoshop 6 or CC has some great new tools. But it's a fact it will be overwhelming to them even if they take a photoshop class. I want to share and inspire my passion for photography and not put a road block up for those adults and or youngsters with an idea of having fun and becoming a photographer.
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The one tool that photo elements has that is invaluable to me is the ability to quickly batch a watermark on all open photos. This seemingly simple process is lacking in the professional versions. An "action" or script is way more complicated/ Also, in iPhoto, the photo name on a slideshow could be done in the classic view, but now in "photos" that has been eliminated.

When I show friends or customers a series of prints, it is very beneficial to have the name of the pic, or my watermark on the photo, This functionality is not very easy to use in the professional packages. Please help. Thanks.
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Similar to what Vinny said, Elements also has the ability to very quickly create Calendars whereas this is *extremely* tedious in CC.
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I totally agree. We should have Premiere Elements as part of our Creative Cloud subscription.. The fact that people have been asking for it for 5 years!!! and it still isn't in CC is sad and shows how much Adobe listens to their customers.
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Four votes in 5 years!
Obviously, you want Premiere Elements for free because you already have subscribed to the Cloud.
There is no doubt about the position from Adobe explained by Pattie F.
What you seem to miss is that Photoshop and Premiere Elements are NOT a subscription software, which is what most users want.
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I am on the fence now whether to buy the "Creative Cloud" service or not. They advertise that it comes with ALL of their apps, but it clearly doesn't come with Elements. I've heard several professionals say they still like to use Elements for quick jobs that take MUCH longer to do with the Pro versions, so I feel like it's a bit of a ripoff to not include them in their premium Creative Cloud service.

I looked into this last year and found the same answer, but looked again just now in hopes that Adobe had come to their senses and finally decided to include it, but I guess not.

A shame for both me and Adobe.
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Elements also includes some music files for simple projects unlike pro. I don't see any music options with the pro version. Even just sample audio would help both with learning the program for students and as space holders for professionals. Please include premiere elements with creative cloud. Clearly people want it.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled include Adobe Premier Elements in the list of apps for download on the Creative C....

include Adobe Premier Elements in the list of apps for download on the Creative Cloud Interface.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Why can't Elements be part of the CC subscription?.

I would like to see Elements included with CC.  I use Lightroom extensively and Elements if additional editing is needed.  I now have Photoshop that I don't even know how to open.  Elements suits my level of needs and is a much cheaper option than Photoshop so why can't it be offered with the subscription as well?  Just my two cents worth...
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Ann,

Some of us want to OWN our software, not RENT it.   We don't want a subscription.   We don't like the cloud storage.   We have an external drive to save photos right at home where we want them.   Owning Elements gives us "freedom" to do what we want.   I hope you never talk Adobe into a CC for elements.   

SL   

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Steve, the cloud storage that comes with the Photography Plan is one of the best, most effective tools in my photo toolbox. I’m currently killing an hour at a school, waiting for the parents & students to show up for their photos, and I can work, on my phone, on many of the hundreds of shots I took in NYC, and at the Chicago Botanic Garden during a 5-day Conference there. Yes, I can’t do the HDR or focus stacking shots, and a couple of other things, but culling, cropping, cloning at the beach (or a school lobby) is GOLD!
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Carlos,
You are  missing the point.
it's only a marketing decision which is strategical for Adobe and Elements users, and absolutely marginal for CC Cloud users.
For you it's just a matter of getting for free a nice accessory tool you are used to.

For Elements users, giving it for free to CC users would seem very unfair and above all, would mean a serious risk of Elements becoming a subscription model.
I can't speak for Adobe, but they are well aware of what Elements users want and the risk to see their Elements base leave the boat and go to other serious competitors in that market segment.

Yes, it looks like some (very few) CC Cloud users would like to also have Elements, for instance if they want to teach it. But judging by the number of votes in this very old post, their number is not significant. After all, purchasing Elements every three or four years besides the CC subscripton is negligible for you.

What is new and interesting in your last post is the Cloud Storage feature. The 1 TB Lightroom CC option without Photoshop and LR Classic seems to be a viable and cost effective solution. You can read many requests from such users to allow using third party softwares as auxiliary pixel editors. Why not use Elements together with LR CC? LR CC is not yet fully mature, but it may be all you want except for a few technical editing you'll do at home. Note that focus stacking and HDR are available for Elements with free or very affordable add-ons. That is already available to you and does not need a change in marketing strategy by Adobe.




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Why is it unfair? We pay a good $300 plus a year (times however many years we decide it's worth it to subscribe.) Negligible? Who are you to say how much money for me is negligible? An extra $120 (or more if it's more than 1 app) plus what I'm paying isn't negligible to me. Having Elements doesn't give me anything extra I need, but it would allow me to help my 8 year old with her film project. (She's a bit young to handle the pro version.)

As far as running the risk of a different model, the RISK is if they DECIDE to change the model. There is no corporate rule dictating that have to do that. Elements owners should be able to keep owning their software, while giving CC users a better incentive to stick around. And  it's not just a few CC users. In the editing community of which I'm particularly a part, there are thousands at least. How much of a hit would it be to Adobe's bottom line if we all decided to downgrade or move on entirely and just use Avid? Would they eventually have to increase to price of Elements if less people pony up for the Pro ?
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If you're paying lots of money for your kid to do videos or photos on software, you are robbing yourself of your precious resources while keeping a budget, or maybe you're richer than the rest of us who can afford to furnish your kid with software-toys. You might try finding another (cheaper) program that has lesser tools so your kid can cope with it better, because you are only using 1/4th of it and tossing away 3/4 of what you're paying for.  We never pay for useless programs.  We use them and we use ALL of them.   

As for us - we own companies which uses 14 pieces of software at a time for our work.  We cannot be paying $2000 per year for subscriptions only for YOUR convenience to have your kid play with a software-toy whether its for school or whatever you want to play with, today.  We need to own our software and we need to be more productive to afford and justify having it in the first place.  Otherwise, we are simply pricing ourselves out of the market.  To subscribe to it, would NOT be justifiable. This is the most used piece of software by 99.9% of the companies nationwide and I will be darned if I will bow to your newfound budget just because you have the money to toss around on subscription software.  It was NOT made into a subscription to keep you there, it was made into a subscription to make more money for Adobe.  Adobe is doing all of us a favor by keeping it affordable and now you come along and want it to be expensive and MORE expensive for a small shop owner to cannot afford yearly subscription software but need to do his work.  You think for one second my customers are going to like my raised pricing because some guy needed a subscription software just for HIM?   And, if you think for exact one second that Adobe will make it a subscription just for YOU and make it an ownership for us, just to have it both ways, and only because it was YOUR idea, you really are thinking stupidly and NOT like a businessman.  

If you can afford a thrill-ride for your kid then that's your own budget but don't include the rest of us with your frivolous ideas.  WE are NOT as rich as you apparently.  YOU need to consult your kid's school to find out what cheaper software there is for kids and get away from Adobe for a while to find out what you didn't miss, and then, maybe they might have THAT in a CC format just for YOU.   

Many parents call us daily asking what type of "professional" camera to buy for their 8 year old.  We tell them NO.  We tell them to buy a cheap camera for a kid.  KIDS want to toss them in the air for a "whirly-pic" just to have their expensive "professional" $2000 camera slam on the pavement and break in pieces.  To kids its only a toy!  After that your kid will beg for another camera.  Are you the type of parent who will go out and buy ANOTHER "professional" $2000 camera each time your kid breaks one then begs for ANOTHER camera and the software too?  Do you think a CC subscription will keep any kid from breaking or corrupting the software?  Who will fix it?  Don't come to us.  Please do not.  Not if your kid had a hand on it prior to that. 
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I agree with everything that came fro Michel.  He and I know that owning a piece of the software is better than paying rent each year (month, week) and I would rather save money.  Apparently we're way more busy than you if you have time in your car in the field to fool around with photographs and a cloud.   If it's free for you, I can understand why you're so overly exited over something that's on your phone or tablet.  But for all of the others, we don't just sort photography, we have customers who want to archives, edits, 600 or more photos, as paying customers, and if they thought we had a rental on a tablet or phone they would look elsewhere for professional services, and they would find someone who doesn't look so cheap.   So go along with your younger-side of things with your cloud.  The rest of us will own our software rather than use it once a week in the field as if that's your only place you have photos. 

BTW a cloud can be hacked.  That's one of my important reasons among others, why I want to own it.   More people complained about Photoshop going to a rental CC model.   We don't want to lose Elements to that also.   I won't use a cloud.  As a software engineer I can tell you that the encryption of those things is from 1985 and its been known by hackers for too many years.   Hackers gather for a convention in San Diego in August each year to pass around what they know.  There's nothing I don't know that they don't know.   Still I wouldn't falsely get past a locked cloud even if i was paid.   Given the odds I happen to know about, their security is a false hope.  Anyone with an IQ of less than 75 can get into them.   Knowing what I know, I won't trust a cloud, ever.   A cloud is purely marketing like Michel said.   You can have it if you think you're secure with it.