Elements 15 catalogs extremely slow to restore to new Windows 10 computer

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I just bought a new Windows 10 computer, and am restoring all my Elements 15 catalogs (which range in size from 160 to 650GB) to that computer. The restoration process is taking an unbelievably long time. I just restored the 650GB catalog, and it took a total of TWELVE hours for the catalog to be restored and for all the thumbnails to load. The last time I did this, which was 5 years ago, the restoration time was MUCH faster. Is this likely to have something to do with Elements, or did I get a dud computer? The computer seems to do other tasks in a timely manner. I am restoring my catalog backups from an external hard drive. On my old computer, that 650GB catalog backed up in only 1 1/2 hours, so I don't understand why the restore is taking so long on the new computer. 
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Darlene Friedman

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Michel BRETECHER, Champion

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Where do you restore? 
To an internal or external drive or a NAS?

Restoring should not take much more time than backup or simple copy of the library. For instance, Restoring a 550 GB catalog to an external USB2 drive took less than 3 hours for me.
Note that the thumbnail creation can take more than 3 hours, but it's a background task and you don't need to wait for its completion. You can organize immediately after the restore.

Other factors to consider: your OS details (menu Help >> System Info) and other competing background tasks like face recognition or smart tagging.
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I'm facing some challenges but I'm on it
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Steve Lehman

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Darlene, Windows 10 like other Windows platforms serves memory allocation.  Windows 10 is slightly different than earlier platforms as it distributes memory to many memory modules, as newer computers are loaded with memory.  In older platforms there was only RAM and virtual memory on the hard drive.  On the newer computers there are many other types of memory being utilized, and it can be adjusted in size as much of it still uses the hard drive for its memory allocation.   

Comparing Windows to Elements, Elements does not manage memory.   The user manages files and memory.   The Organizer takes a considerable gob of memory although Windows 10 passes tasks to the background, it's still operating and although it doesn't interfere with current tasks, it can slow a computer.   Windows 10 being like XP like they say, only goes as far as stabilization.   

Steve Lehman, mcse   


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Michel and Steve,

I am restoring my backups from their location on my 10TB Western Digital Easy Store external hard drive to my Dell XPS desktop computer, which has 32GB of RAM. These Easy Store external hard drives are extremely fast, much faster than my previous 8TB WD external drives. That's why I was so surprised at how much time it took to restore the catalogs.I noticed once the last catalog restored and while the thumbnails were loading that Facial Recognition and Smart Tagging were on, so I disabled them, but (at least at that point) it didn't seem to make any difference.

I just did an experiment and backed up my current catalog, which has 160 GB, to my external hard drive. It took exactly 28 minutes to do this, which is identical to my old computer. So the backup process seems to be fine, but the restore process takes forever. I've restored 8 of my 10 catalogs so far, and the catalogs have anywhere from 160 to 650GB. The restore time (including rebuilding the thumbnails) took anywhere from 6 to 12 hours, which is ridiculous. I hope there is some fix for this. 
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You insist on stating the total time of restore plus thumbnail creation. My guess is that restore time only without waiting for thumbnail creation is much less (under 4 hours max). If that is the case, the real problem would not be restore, but to re-create thumbnails, which can be very slow with raw files.
You don't have to wait for thumbnail creation, you can work immediately, the thumbnails in any page you are browsing are always restored in priority. A common practice is to delete the thumbnail cache and let it recreate automatically in a night job.
As a test, could you compare the time to restore temporarily a relatively small catalog on a new folder in the computer itself to the time it takes to the external drive? (without waiting for the thumbnails re-creation)
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Michel,

Actually, I timed the restore process to my desktop computer (just the restore, not the thumbnails) on a 409 GB catalog last night. The restore took 5 1/4 hours. I got the thumbnails going and went to bed. When I got up at 7:30 A.M. all the thumbnails were in.

I will try your suggestion and restore the same catalog to an external hard drive and see what happens. Good idea!

Once I get all 10 catalogs restored (I have one more to go), I am going to try to move all the catalogs to "Catalogs accessible to all users" so I can see all 10 at once when I click on "Manage Catalogs". I'm a little afraid to try that. Do you think that will be a lengthy process, or should it go pretty quickly? 
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There are two ways to move the restored catalogs to the default location:  "catalogs accessible to all users".
- From the catalog manager as described above,
- or outside of the organizer, from the Windows Explorer, by copying or moving the whole calatog folder to the default (hidden) location:
C:\ProgramData\Adobe\Elements Organizer\Catalogs

You may feel safer by simply copying the catalog file, which will not change anything to the restored catalog.