Lightroom Classic: Edits made in detail panel in develop module are not being saved in the library module

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I'm having an issue with my edits that I make in the detail panel not saving to library. Has anyone else had this issue? How do I fix this? Adobe customer support is no help. Its definitely all edits in the detail panel that are not saving and trasferring to Library Module or my exports. I have tried multiple computer and I have the same issue. I have also noticed that it tends to be on imported RAW files and not a JPEG. Please help!
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Confusing question because edits are not saved in the modules. For raw images, they are saved in either the catalog or the sidecar file. Upon export as JPEG or print or... the edits are applied to the image before exporting. But if you export as RAW then you will not see the edits with any other tool because Lightroom does not modify the RAW file.  
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Sorry for the confusion. I'm say that edits that I make in my detail panel in the develop module are not showing in library module or when I export to jpeg, print, etc. 
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What version of Lightroom Classic are you using? The latest is 9.2. 
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I am using 9.2

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The only thing that makes sense to me is that the Lightroom app has been corrupted on your computer and it needs to be reinstalled. I've been using Lightroom since version 2 and never had anything like this happen. Sorry that I don't have any other suggestions. I do assume that this is a new problem. I also just tried to force an export without the edits and couldn't figure out a way to do that so I doubt that it is a user error.

Possible issue: since 7.2 there are many reports of serious problems from people using either Adobe's cloud and/or storing their library on an external drive. These are bugs and not something that a user can cause.

This suggestion is silly but it might be a clumsy solution to your problem, it fixes the round trip to Photoshop issue that reappeared with 7.2.
1) edit a picture
2) check it in the Library module to be sure the edits are missing
3) shut down Lightroom with the option to check the catalog integrity and backup
4) restart Lightroom
5) check to see if the edits now appear correctly
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I have uninstalled and reinstalled with no fix. Can you please explain #3. I'm not sure I understand shutting down with the  option to check the catalog integrity
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When you exit Lightroom, you get 2 popups. 
  1. Do you really want to quit? click the Yes button.
  2. Back Up Catalog dialog
    Back up catalog: box should say Every Time Lightroom exits 
    Test integrity before backing up should be checked
    Optimize catalog after backing up should be checked 
    Click Back up button
Furthermore, absolutely never shutdown your computer with Lightroom running, probably the number one cause of a corrupted catalog. Laptop users tend to do this and they complain on this and other forums that their catalog is corrupted. 

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Thanks Bill! Yes, those are my current settings and both boxes are checked. I do work on a laptop and there is a great possibility that it has been shut down without exiting. If so, are there any other things I can do to correct a corrupt catalog of that is the case?
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This is the only straightforward way to correct a corrupted catalog. As the catalog is a SQL database, there are tutorials about editing the Lightroom catalog with SQL, you'll need to do some searching. 
 
There is another way which I've never tried and it does have some risk of losing your edits but it should work. The reason it should work is that you can have multiple catalogs but there is no relationship between them. So if you had all your photos in 2 separate catalogs, you could delete one and not lose the other. The trick is to do this without losing your edits.
 
So what we want to do is create a fresh catalog and then import all your photos and edits into that catalog. High level view:
  • create sidecar (XMP) files for all your photos, this is done by Lightroom 
  • the sidecar files are stored in the same place as your photos 
  • create a new catalog
  • import your photos into the new catalog
  • if all is good then you can delete the old catalog, I'd not be in a hurry to do this
I don't know the exact steps but you want to make sure that all your edits have been stored in a sidecar before trying this, I would think that the sidecar would be safer. There is a way to select all the images and then tell Lightroom to create sidecars for them. Depending on the number of images, this could take hours. It will also be much slower if you are using a cloud service to store your images.
 
Once you have sidecars for all your images, you create a new empty catalog and import your photos into that catalog. Obviously try it with just a few first. After importing them, do an edit to ensure that the changes are showing up in the Library module and if you export a photo. If everything is good, then import the rest of your images. Then test, test, test. If you are confident that your new catalog is good then you can delete the old one. 
 
While I've not done this complete process, I did move a large number of images from one instance of Lightroom one one computer to a different computer and it worked fine. That was essentially the same thing, I just don't remember how I told Lightroom to create all the sidecars. (BTW, you can set a default in Lightroom to always create sidecars. But Lightroom sometimes forgets settings so every time up update Lightroom, be sure to check any of your customized settings to ensure they haven't change. Yeah a pain but everybody messes up settings with updates: Adobe, Apple, Microsoft... EVERYBODY.)
 
My folder hierarchy is as follows with Lighroom on a dedicated drive which doesn't work for a laptop unless you have a dual drive machine. Not really necessary.
 
Images-Lightroom
   Data-Images
      0 Lightroom Catalog     <=== the zero is to force this folder to sort to the top in File Manager
      Animals                          <=== folder with animals not related to an event 
      Automotive                    <==== folder with car pictures (of course, I'm a guy) 

and so forth and of course, folders within folders within folders. The Lightroom Cache is on a separate drive, not necessary but at least have it outside your mail Lightroom folder. 
 
You probably know this but not taking a chance so please don't be insulted, your photos are not inside the Lightroom catalog. Deleting a Lightroom catalog does not delete any pictures. But if you don't have sidecars for your RAW images then the editing instructions are stored in the catalog so then deleting the catalog will result in a loss of your editing info. For JPEGs you can actually choose to store the editing info inside the JPEG, personally I think this is a very dangerous thing to do but that's just me. JPEGs get corrupted easily enough without giving Lightroom the opportunity to make it worse. 
   
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Exactly the same issue here.

In my situation, I have just got a new PC. Transferred LR catalogue and Pictures correctly. LR works fine, PS works fine . . . . . the only thing not working is when I launch PS from LR to make further edit and then click 'Save', it's not displaying the saved image in the LR folder (either in Library View or Develop View), BUT it is saving the file saved by PS in my Pictures folder on the HDD.
I've spent hours today going through eveything.
The only difference between the two PC is that the new PC has Version 21.1.0 of PS and the old PC has Version 21.0.3.

Any suggestions would be most welcome!
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This is a relatively new bug in the sense that it occurs much more often than prior to V9. Nothing is lost, just close and reopen Lightroom and the image magically appears. For me, it happens 100% of the time round tripping from Lightroom to Photoshop and back. As the only thing I currently round trip for is focus stacking, the impact is minor. Considering a plug-in for focus stacking as I'm not terribly pleased with the Photoshop results, works well for the price (free). As Adobe eventually moved HDR stacking into Lightroom to eliminate that round trip, I'm hoping that we see focus stacking moved in as well. 
 
BTW I'm really pleased with the Lightroom HDR implementation. While perhaps not as flexible for extreme HDR stackers, most of the time it does an excellent job. Still HDR EFEX PRO is on the agenda to see if it will handle some of the stacks that fail in Lightroom though those could be my fault with the original images. HDR EFEX PRO is much more work to use but incredibly flexible. 

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Bill, unfortunately I don't have the same experience. Even if I close and re-open LR the image I edited in PS and saved to the computer does not appear in the Lightroom Library. It does however exist in the Pictures folder as the edited version of the image (in addition to the original of course).

I'm at a loss.

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@Cinammon Malone 

A Preference File will survive a Lightroom uninstall/reinstall.
Sometimes weird behavior is corrected/cured by resetting the preferences.

Reset Procedure:
1. Close Lightroom.
2. Hold down [Alt/Opt]+[Shift] while restarting Lightroom.
3. Overwrite the Preferences when prompted by the dialog.
4. Close Lightroom.
5. Restart Lightroom.

Does the Library Edits issue continue after resetting the preferences?
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I gave up in the end and recreated my Catalogue from scratch by importing 900Gb of images! It all works fine now and so it must have been something to do with with the transfer from old to new computer.