Editing RAW files in Photoshop from Lightroom gets an embedded profile mismatch warning

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I recently updated Camera Raw (10.4), Lightroom Classic CC (7.4), Photoshop CC (19.1.5), and Bridge (8.1.0.383).  Now, when I try to edit a file in Photoshop from Lightroom Classic CC, I get a warning saying that the document has an embedded profile that does not match the current sRGB working space.  I haven't changed any settings since the last time I've done this, other than updating, and I've never had a problem editing in PS before.  I have Lightroom set to use ProPhotoRGB when editing in Photoshop, and save as .psd.  I have always kept Photoshop's working space as sRGB as I was pretty sure that Lightroom tells Photoshop to use ProPhotoRGB working space on files coming from Lightroom regardless of what my color settings in Photoshop are. I have "preserve embedded profile" checked for RGB, CMYK, and Gray in PS and in Bridge. 
When I opened a raw file (from finder) in Camera Raw today, I noticed it defaulted to Adobe RGB, 8-bit. I'm not sure if it's always been that way and I've never noticed before, or if that setting changed somehow, but I switched it to ProPhotoRGB, 16-bit, thinking that might help.  However, I'm still getting the same message when I try to open a RAW file in PS.

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Can you add a screenshot of your PS Color Settings?
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The reason you're getting the mismatch is that your PS Working Space is set to sRGB and it's seeing a ProPhoto RGB file. I have my setting like this to avoid the dialog from appearing, and to keep the file in a ProPhoto RGB workflow back into LR without any confusion.

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Yes, I've wondered about that, but I've always had it set this way and have read in lots of places that it doesn't matter what I set Photoshop colors to, as PS will use the settings that I told it to use in Lightroom.

I'd switch it if it's a sure thing, but I work on lots of non-photo files in PS that need sRGB working space and it's a pain to switch it back and forth if I don't have to.

I guess I just want to be sure that that's the reason, as it's never been an issue before.
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As long as Preserve Embedded Profile and Ask When Opening are both checked AND when you get a Profile Mismatch dialog you choose to use embedded profile and not convert to the working space, then it will always use the embedded profile.
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Ok, thanks!!  One last thing- if I do uncheck ask when opening but have Preserve Embedded Profile checked, would that be safe?  Or will I be seeing colors that are not right because the working space is different?  

Just kidding, one more question- does the working space affect the paintbrush and color samples?  Meaning if I'm in sRGB working space, I'll see red as one color, but if I paint the same color red on a file that's ProPhotoRGB it will turn to another shade (without proper conversion)?  That's happened before and I'm wondering if this is why...  
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You can't be in 2 color spaces at once. You're either in one or the other. 
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I think I might be getting it...  So preserving the color space changes the working space to the document's color space?  And the color palette colors change also?
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Preserve keeps the embedded profile from getting converted to another color space. Otherwise your PPRGB files would get converted to sRGB when you open them. See: "Description" in screenshot.


If you set it to Convert to Working RGB, and in your case, it's on sRGB, then you would be greatly reducing your color gamut from PPRGB way down to sRGB. You may not actually need anything but sRGB though, depending on your end use.

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Thanks for taking the time to explain!!  I knew that I didn't want to convert to sRGB when editing in Photoshop from LR, but I just wasn't sure what preserving the ProPhoto color space would do if my working space stayed sRGB.  Glad to know the working space just changes based on the document's embedded color space. 
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You're welcome. It's easier to explain in person, because of the intricacies of all the settings, but I think you're on the right track! ;) 
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The other option would be to uncheck the Profile Mismatch - Ask When Opening.
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But if I uncheck the ask when opening, then what happens, does it convert it to sRGB?  or stay in sRGB but edit in ProPhoto?  I don't want to mess up the colors and it seems like that might get me into trouble without knowing it....  I don't even know what I should select when I get the profile mismatch warning.  


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See my above reply.
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What you are seeing, that warning dialog, is completely normal because there is a Color Profile Mismatch.
LR is sending a RAW file to PS with a color profile of ProPhoto and PS is set to use sRGB. 
Either change PS to use ProPhoto or set LR to send file to PS using sRGB.