Edit Original loses ALL LR adjustments on return to LightRoom from PS (both CC)

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Adobe Photoshop Lightroom CC "Edit Original" Bug.
Since the release of CC, editing a tiff file in PS with "edit original" which has LR adjustments applied to it - the adjustments n longer show up upon return to LR. You can force the updates by clicking on the latest history state within LR, but this is an extra, unnecessary, unintuitive step compared to the previous release (which did apply the LR mods upon return to lightroom).
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Edit Original should NOT have LR adjustments applied to it unless the original file has embedded adjustments and goes through ACR on the way into PS.
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I may not have been clear.
A tiff in Lightroom with say a crop and a vignette, should look "original" in Photoshop when using the "Edit Original" option such that the crop and the vignette would not be visible in Photoshop. However, upon closing Photoshop and saving the tiff *back* to Lightroom, the crop and the vignette should be visible again within Lightroom.

This is no longer the case in some instances. One then has to go to the history tab and pick the last history state there which reapplies the changes. Previous LR releases automated this step and the crop and vignette were immediately visible upon return to LR.
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So in PS as you save and exit, you're overwriting the master photo with a new copy one and expect the LR edits to apply to the new one and the preview be refreshed w/o having to touch anything.

Since it is intermittent, it would be good to see if there's something special about the ones that work vs the ones that don't.

I could imagine that if the Save takes too long, maybe LR I trying to update things to early and getting an error and then not trying again once the save is complete, but I've never tried this process either with any LR version so am not sure what to expect.
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Correct. Indeed this is how LR has functioned from it's first release.
Before local modifications were possible (like the brush tool, radial radiant, heal clone tool) in Lightroom one exported the exposure adjusted DNG to a tiff in PS, did your healing, cloning, dodging and burning, then came back into LR for linear gradients and final vignette etc. You could always go back into the tiff at any point and change or add healing etc without effecting the LR adjustments (of course they are not visible in the tiff while editing in PS). This is proven by the fact that this functionality still works as it should on a virtual copy of the tiff, but not on the master tiff within LR, also proven by the fact that in the master tiff in Lightroom the history is at such a state that all those modifications are present - indeed clicking the "current" history state restores the correct behaviour. So it effectively returns you to a previous history state of that file - which is arbitrary to say the least.
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I have used this functionality quite frequently since upgrading to the newly released LRCC version, and had no issues. I often also have a range of VC's associated with the file, various print proofs, at different aspect ratios for example. I save as PSD's rather than TIFF's though. As I am assessing moving from LR4.4 and PSCS5 to CC I have been specifically doing a lot more work in PS than I usually would.

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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Lightroom "forgets" edits made to PSD when externally edited.

Since updating LR and PS to the CC/2015 versions, I've noticed a change in the way external editing works. 

Here's a description of the CURRENT situation:

Having edited a RAW file in LR, and then edited (cmd+E) it in PS, I have a new PSD, reflecting both LR edits and PS edits, sitting in my LR catalog, stacked alongside the old RAW file. 

I now make changes to the PSD inside LR - i.e. cropping, some brushing, etc. As I understand it, this does not affect the PSD itself, but only the LR catalog within with the PSD is held. 

I now wish to take the PSD back to PS for some more cloning/etc. Quite correctly, the PSD when it opens up in Photoshop, does not show any of the changes I'd made to the file in LR - this information is not attached to the PSD, only to the LR catalog. 

FYI, when I externally edit the PSD for the second time (cmd+E), I choose "Edit Original" in the dialog box that comes up.

Having made some additional changes to the PSD (some cloning), I save and close PS. When I go back to LR, I find that LR seems to have abandoned the cropping/brushing that I'd done to the PSD, and shows me the PSD with no lightroom edits made to it.

I have tried opening the PSD through finder (rather than cmd+E) making an edit, saving and then returning to LR - and when I do this, LR remembers the LR edits I'd made to the file - so it seems like there's a deliberate step whereby LR abandons LR edits to a PSD when it is externally edited in PS. 

This is a new behaviour I began noticing when I updated LR to CC 2015 some months ago. It's a problem and has resulted in loss of work for me. 

Does anyone know if this is a bug, or do I just need to change an option somewhere?

Many thanks, 

Vineet
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This is a major new bug introduced in the latest version. Lightroom should not reset the develop settings upon reading the file. It has NEVER done this before and always reapplied the settings as you would expect when the file returned to Lightroom. This is really disturbing as much of my workflow with scanned images (when I clean up dust after I have already done changes in Lightroom but don't want to generate another 200 MB file) and raw derived tiffs uses this. 
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I'm currently using LR CC2015.4 on Windows 7 to process color negative film captures using my Canon 5d MKII. I use 'Edit in PS' to open the raw file in PS CC2015.1.2 with LR edits and apply a PS Action with numerous correction layers. I save the TIFF file in PS and then apply LR edits to the TIFF file, use Edit in PS> Edit Original, apply more edits in PS, and save the TIFF file.

I've been doing this for over week with numerous Canon CR2 files without any issues on my Windows 7 system. I'm guessing it's a Mac OS X platform issue...
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Thanks for testing this Todd! Seems to be a Mac OS X platform issue indeed if it works correctly on your system.
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Todd found the solution to this issue in another thread: https://forums.adobe.com/message/8487967#8487967