Does anyone else find it morally repugnant for Adobe to disable features for those of us who purchase Lightroom rather than renting?

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I personally do not want anything to do with the cloud. I prefer to own my software outright rather than renting. I am often away from the internet on travel for long periods. I want to work locally, own my software on my own machine. I do not want monthly fees on my credit card.

I object to Adobe's attempts at pigeonholing me into their preferred business model by providing new features only to CC users.

Please Adobe, adjust your official policies to give the same rights to the purchasers of your software that you give to renters. This sort of discrimination is unconscionable.

And, while you're at it, stop trying to hide the way to purchase your software. If you make it available only on a monthly subscription, I will have to find another way to edit my photos. Your software is the best, but not good enough to force me into your business model.

Thank you for your time and, hopefully, your serious consideration.
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Scott Sobel

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David Francis

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I am very worried about Adobe's business model also. I live full time between 2 mobile homes in 2 different countries. I can only every get EXPENSIVE prepaid mobile broadband. I can never hook into anything much on the Internet - even Facebook is a no go because of the bandwidth it consumes. Windows 10 updates rob me of bandwidth all the time. I have a huge photographic database which travels with me, all processed and keyworded in Lightroom.

I also have a copy of OnOne Photo Raw which I am continually experimenting with as a great looking replacement if I am forced to go there by Adobe. It has some interesting features which I use as a Lightroom Plugin.

Things like dehaze in CC which are not there in the computer copy of Lightroom I fear are the tip of the iceberg and I feel that Adobe is just walking away from users like myself.
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Tom Mickow

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I'm not looking to start an argument on the pros & cons of the subscription model.  It works for me, but I also understand some folks are resistant to the idea or have special circumstances where it doesn't make sense.  That said, how is it different for you now than it was before?

Prior to the whole CC thing, if you bought Lr X, bug fixes & new camera support came along in updates, but there were no new features until Adobe released Lr X+1 and you bought/upgraded to that.

That's still the same even in the current CC world.  If you choose to purchase the perpetual license of Lr 6, you get bug fixes & new camera support in updates, but won't get any new features until they release and you buy Lr 7.

What seems to get everybody's undies in a bunch is that those of us who are "renting" are getting access to new features, but that's one of the pros of the subscription model.

Btw, even if you're on a CC subscription, you don't always have to be connected to the Internet, you can work locally, and you purchase annually, so you don't have monthly fees on your credit card.
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Another way to view the two types of pricing: In both pricing models, you get new features when you pay money.  Pay on a monthly basis and get new features as soon as they're available. Pay every two years and get new features every two years.  
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You have certainly put things right, Scott. I think also that LR users can make their choice, instead of having to search the wide world over for LR permanent updates. I believe they try to fight illegal copies by constantly changing and updating. I have seen this on the CAD scene where I work.
On the positive side you get LR+PS for less than 10USD/month..
These detailed discussions are not read neither even answered by official adobe people, it is just a corporation, they do not care much about a single users headaches. Bigger and hairier problems are overlooked.
I would opt for the CC thing if I would get reimbursed fairly for the official purchases I placed with adobe, say get one month of CC discount for every month i used LR standalone, up to 6 months?
on their side they might suggest i have already used the product. tough call.
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You have certainly put things right, Scott. I think also that LR users can make their choice, instead of having to search the wide world over for LR permanent updates. I believe they try to fight illegal copies by constantly changing and updating. I have seen this on the CAD scene where I work.
On the positive side you get LR+PS for less than 10USD/month..
These detailed discussions are not read neither even answered by official adobe people, it is just a corporation, they do not care much about a single users headaches. Bigger and hairier problems are overlooked.
I would opt for the CC thing if I would get reimbursed fairly for the official purchases I placed with adobe, say get one month of CC discount for every month i used LR standalone, up to 6 months?
on their side they might suggest i have already used the product. tough call.
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Scott Sobel

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Oh, only $9.99/month? That's only 3 times the $79.99 price for the upgrade divided over 2 years. If I wasn't convinced that I didn't want the CC version before, I certainly am now. Let's see what happens when 7 comes out. See if there are fewer features right on day 1.
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$10/month gets you Photoshop, Lightroom, & all the cloud features with Lr Mobile, etc.  That's considerably less than what I was paying to upgrade Ps and Lr every few years.  Plus, I'm getting a smaller steadier stream of updates that are easier to digest and integrate into my workflow rather than a whole massive chunk every few years.

Maybe it's not for you, but for me, it's well worth it.
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Just to add a data point.
Much of the change in the purchasing options is due to changes in the federal laws regarding accounting methods.
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Scott Sobel

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Can you be more specific?
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Joseph Kiernan

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John's post covers it better than what I originally wrote here.
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