Does Adobe actively hate its users?

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Does Adobe actively hate its users? Or is it just a joke to reverse the lock proportion in transforming (shift key)? Actually curious who thought this was a good idea.
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Jason

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TangCanada

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LMAO,,, them Adobe dudes come up with all sorts of "good" ideas between themselves (about two or three of them) that does not find favor with us...

but still things we (the paying users) have been asking for for years are ignored.... like scrubbing all those useless file formats in the "Save As" dialog.
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Chris Powers

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my two cents is that since this update came out, my email has been blowing up with people from this site having problems, I've only had one that I can live with..  but wow, its just clearly showing that this update was either too soon or not well executed...
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James Gray

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I think it is a good idea that Adobe made PS consistent with other software.  I like it that I do not have to press sift to get proportional transforms.  I have talked to another power user who also agrees.
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Jason

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Consistent with other software? That is the opposite of realty.
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Dennis Nisbet

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There are so many "REAL" problems with Photoshop that need to be addressed. These are problems that have been reported time and time again. 
The oldest one that I follow is over 7 years old.
And yet, Adobe continues to introduce somewhat senseless changes that don't work right and cause other problems.
My Daughter is the Art Director for a midsize printing company. She says that if they were to follow conventional wisdom and do all the updates, they would never get any work done. There are just too many problems and this latest update to Photoshop is a classic example.
For many, Photoshop is a tool! 
Adobe appears to be treating many of their products as toys!
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Chris Powers

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Adobe loves the bloatware approach. Sure we all like neat and new things but not at the cost of the prior things not working as expected or even at all in some cases..  I totally agree with you. And I'm a "light" photoshop user. I mainly crop photos & put some text on it if necessary...and masking, lots of masking.

I own the ipad and pc/osx version of serifs Affinity Photo, Designer and beta of Publisher... If they were more compatible to the format/extensions that Adobe uses and I had time to learn it too, I'd be using them over Adobe in a heartbeat...
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Ronald Keller

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I like or rather love this locking.
From the 100 times I want to transform something 99 times I want to transform it in proportion.


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It's not Adobe that hates its users, it's that users hate change. Even change that makes a lot of sense (and was often requested by other users). People are so used to holding the shift key down, that changing this so that you do no longer have to hold the shift key down in 95% of all cases causes uproar rather than a sigh of relief. Give it some time. In a month or so you don't even remember that you had to hold that key down in the past.
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Jason

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I have no problem with change. I'm a Photoshop user for over 15 years. I just like changes that serve a purpose. I have never had a problem like this with any change until this one. It's pointless.
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Chris Powers

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I've been a PS user since its inception.. I don't have a problem with change and advancement in ways things evolve, expand or even leave to be replaced by something else.

What I, and many here, have said its the lack of it being ready for mass use. Rushing something out the door just to have a new release because its AdobeMax time of year is part of the problem. Some parts of this update are CLEARLY not working and causing a significant amount of problems for a variety of people.  I'd rather have NO release vs a multi-bug ridden release that's causing me downtime, headaches and loss of ability to do the job we need done now.

The other part is, there's a few features that are never updated, never removed because something else replaced it, and sadly a handful of features in both Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign, etc... that are never fixed--bugs remain in the software update after update. I don't have a list but even during one of the keynotes the speaker mentioned "we know, there's a problem with xxxxxx" (not sure if it was tables, I know I've had my own issues with it) but that highlights that they're aware of it yet don't fix it, don't tell us of a work-around, and then have the audacity to act like its JUST us and JUST our machine because of something, anything but they do NOT like admitting they've got a problem with an update, a feature or workflow that's never fixed... 

I'm not trying to crap on your comments Johan but if you can't see what we're taking about and see that there's a legitimate reason behind some of the complaints we have about them shoving out an unfinished, unpolished update for the sake of updating and glossing over things that are still not working & blaming the customer/end user as if its just in our head....then my goodness, you simply have NOT paid attention to what's going on in the industry.

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