Photoshop CS6: Documents must be saved before they can be merged with PhotoMerge

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When I open .jpg files from disk and make no changes, then try to 'add open files' for Photomerge, I'm told "Documents must be saved before they can be merged".

1) Since they are already saved, I'm trying to learn why I must save them again (as .jpg files).

2) In terms of choices, should I maintain the default (i.e., checked) "Embed color profile"?

3) For JPEG options, the defaults are: Image options: quality 8 / high. Format options: baseline / standard. By leaving these defaults, will I be reducing the quality of my originals (given there is a 'higher' "maximum" setting?

4) Overall, I'm looking for guidance on best practice. One idea I had was to save copies of the originals for creating the Photomerge.
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Which product are you using?
Which version?
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CS6 Photoshop Extended. OS X 10.6.8.
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Photomerge works by selecting files on disk -- so to use the open files, they have to be saved. Photomerge does a quick check to see if they have unsaved changes, thus the warning.

You can always load the open documents into layers and use the align and merge commands yourself instead of going through the photomerge script.
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Thanks for your quick help. What I still don't understand is why Photomerge thinks the files have unsaved changes, because I opened them directly from disk in PS, and didn't do anything with them. Or is it the case that I need to save the document as a Photoshop file first?

I really like Photomerge.
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I am having the exact same issue. I have used these menu options before without any problems, and nothing has changed on my system, so I'm a bit at a loss for what to try.
If anyone has a clue, I'm all ears.
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When you open your JPEG, is there an asterisk * after the file name and color space in the document tab/header?

E.g. - Myimage.jpeg (RGB/8)*

If so, is Script Events Manager enabled? (File>Scripts>Script Events Manager...)
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@Jeffrey: in my case, there was no asterisk showing ... I am familiar with what you were getting at.
I actually just fixed my problem. After trying everything else I read about, I went back to the one thing that usually works in OSX - repair file permissions in Disk Utility. That did it, and have no idea why.
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Interesting. Permissions can cause strange behaviors but I've not seen that before. I'll see if we can repro that scenario. It will be interesting to see if Bob can repair permissions to correct his situation.
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I just repaired permissions, but that did not help.

The permissions on the files look wide open:

-rwxrwxrwx 1 bob staff 5298868 Oct 1 06:17 2012-10-01_west_wall_ducting_L_0001.JPG

-rwxrwxrwx 1 bob staff 5061631 Oct 1 06:18 2012-10-01_west_wall_ducting_L_0002.JPG

The TEMP ones were 'save as', which were created later; they are even less permissive, but they *do* work:

-rw-r--r--@ 1 bob staff 1218287 Oct 2 19:33 2012-10-01_west_wall_ducting_L_0001 TEMP.jpg

-rw-r--r--@ 1 bob staff 1164346 Oct 2 09:22 2012-10-01_west_wall_ducting_L_0002 TEMP.jpg

Yes, there is an asterisk after the file name.

Script Events Manager is not enabled.
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I am having the same problem with photoshop elements 11. No matter what I do, save the file open it directly from the HD or drag and drop it into the editor, I get the same message "Documents must be saved before they can be merged". I merged some photos about two weeks ago and it went fine, but when I tried today with the same files as two weeks ago, it doesn't work. The photomerge panorama feature just isn't working for me. Can anyone help?
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me too - exactly the same a week ago .
 Worked quickly & perfectly first time.
 Now - nothing ...
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I am having exactly the same problem. When I try open files the message appears. When I try "browse" and select, nothing happens. I have removed preference files, uninstalled and reinstalled, remove everything with the name Adobe from my OS hidden, caches, logs, etc and reinstalled CS6. Same problem. I wish someone (preferably an Adobe technician) would have an answer. My next step is to chat with Adobe as soon as Christmas is over. Panoramas are a large part of my output and this is crimping my production to say nothing of the frustration!
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After 4 days of frustration, I finally have a program that will successfully merge panoramas! All Adobe (hidden Library) files were replaced by the ones on my laptop. CS3 and CS5 were re-installed from disc and then I Installed CS6 from disc. I updated ONLY Camera Raw, leaving CS6 as original. Merge now works, but more anomalies have taken place. When saving the panoramas as tiff's, they are saved as pxr and jpg's are saved as Photoshop EPS and photoshops are saved as JPEG 2000! I don't know whether to soldier on as is or try to correct the problem.
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Sounds like you copied plugins from an older version of Photoshop into the Photoshop CS6 plugins folder -- go delete those plugins. Only third party plugins should be in the plugins folder.
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I never received anything specific about why I was forced to save files that were opened by Photoshop from disc (i.e., no changes to them). (I started this thread.)

Was there an issue that has been fixed? If not, is there a solution in case the problem recurs? Note: I am now on v. 13.0 x64 extended and am unable to replicate the problem. thanks
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Removing the obsolete plug-ins cured the File Format problem, but I am back to the "Documents must be saved before they can be merged" problem that was inherent before. Come on Adobe; help those of us that depend on Photoshop for more than just snapshots - this is becoming nasty and expensive!
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I am now using Photostitch, which came with my Canon 5D - not as good as Photomerge, and more difficult to produce quality images, but it works. Another feature that I lost in CS6 was the ability to merge photos with different focusing planes that I used for my macro photos - pity!
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At the risk of boring anyone that might be checking this thread, I thought I would try PS Elements12 out of curiosity. I downloaded a trial and tried my luck. I don't believe it! When I tried to create a panorama the same "Documents must be saved before they can be merged" banner. I am going through my iMac and removing ANYTHING that has any reference to Adobe anywhere in the computer - in the apps folder, HD library and (username) library and re-installing the applications starting with Photoshop CS on up to PS CS6. This is my last attempt - if there is still a failure I will be forced to look elsewhere. It is obvious the Adobe does not really care.
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Mark,

I am grateful for your efforts. It is really sad if a company you pay for services does not fix things that are long-known problems. My hunch is that the intermediary(?) groups there do care, or *maybe* more likely even passionately care, but do not have authority/influence/budget. My only hope is Adobe will publicaly-address this issue, and fix it.

It is far better to say that (we) understand the problem and the frustration it is is causing our paying customers. Example: "We intend to fix it promptly, rather than ignoring the problem."
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Well, that is it! All files, apps and libraries(2) files, etc that refer to anything Adobe have been removed. All apps from CS to CS6 have been re-installed and updated. Same old, same old. Trial version PSE12 - same thing. At this point, I have nowhere to turn, there is nothing left that I have not tried. I am now using Canon Photostitch for panoramas, but other features of CS6 such as merging images with different focus points for macro images and content aware replacement of portions of group photos are also lost. I can only assume there are not enough users having this problem to worry Adobe Service. You certainly have got my (adverse) attention!
Mark Strang - "Photo by Strang"
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At the risk of boring anyone following this thread; I have come across a very bizarre workflow to create a panorama in CS6. I open the applicable files in Canon's Digital Photo Professional and select "Batch Process" and choose Photoshop CS6 to transfer files. They then show up in CS6 at which point I request "Automate - Merge" - "Add Open Files" at which time CS6 does it's thing and a great panorama is created! These same files, when the same procedure is requested from Bridge 6 results in the same old "Must be saved, etc, etc." The only restriction is that the files must be Canon Raw (CR2), tif or jpeg. Other types of raw are not recognized and must be opened and saved as .tif or .jpg files before DPP will recognize and open. Is that strange or what?
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Creating multiple layers for focus blending still does not work, since the files must be created using Bridge - which seems to be the problem.
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It appears that I am essentially talking to myself on this thread, but for anyone's interest, I have located a wonderful alternative for my focus stacking requirements. It is ZereneStacker and it works a treat. I am now working with the trial download, but the personal app is only $101. CAD, so I will buy it. This is a one trick pony, but the results are easy and amazing. In combination with Canon DPP I can now create the images I require for clients.
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I was so frustrated that I corrupted the Apple System Files and could not restart my computer. I traded it in on a new iMac 27" and installed Photoshop CC on a clean system on a new computer. I cannot believe it! The same problem exists on this new program on a brand new computer. Adobe you have cost me a lot of money for nothing and no one will help!
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I became so frustrated I tried to port over the system files from my laptop (where photoshop works) to my iMac (where it doesn't) and corrupted my iMac to the point I could not restart. I then traded it in on a new iMac 27" and started again. I downloaded Photoshop CC onto a brand new, clean OS and computer. I do not believe it! The same problem exists whereby I cannot merge files or load them into Photoshop layers! Adobe why can you not help?
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I have to give you an A for effort - you are tenacious sir.
To me, it sounds like the files you are generating in your camera are read-only or otherwise problematic with Photoshop/Bridge.
Did you read this thread from 2010:
http://forums.adobe.com/message/5388753
One problem is the use of "/" in the file names that can cause problems. Also if you are using RAW files, that can be problematic as well.

Here is the list of cameras that are compatible with the Camera Raw plugin - you should check this to be sure that isnt the problem right there:
http://helpx.adobe.com/contact.html?p...

I agree that Adobe should address the problems, but why not contact them directly?
http://helpx.adobe.com/contact.html?p...
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Thanks for your reply. I might point out that all the “safeguards and file types have been satisfied and that the CS6 works perfectly on my Macbook Pro with the same operating system and CS6 installed. I have performed every procedure recommended and available and nothing has changed!
A new development - I downloaded the new Photoshop CC and, as previously stated, the same problems exist. However, part of the package included Lightroom 5 and, lo and behold the features work perfectly! It appears that Bridge CC does not recognize any scripts.
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Another new (unwelcome) development - features described previously no longer work with Lightroom 5!