Photoshop: Ability to disable fonts from within Photoshop

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Why in 2019 do we not have the ability to turn off fonts from inside Photoshop? Why when I make a text layer must I scroll through a never ending list of fonts I do not need. Like Apple Braille? Or fonts in foreign languages that I will never use? Users should be given the option to hide fonts they do not want to see. How hard is that? How did Lorem ipsum place holder text get added as a feature before some better font management was added. I should not be forced into going and trying to delete system fonts from my operating system and risk ruining it.
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Jaroslav Bereza

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You can mark your favorites font with a star and filter them. But I am affraid that at the certain point with PS update you will loose your settings so might need to do it again.
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As someone that uses a lot of fonts that is not a good solution. Then I end up turning the favorites into a list that filters out the crap fonts instead of using it for the intended purpose of showing me my favorites.

Essentially breaking a feature to solve a glaring oversight in Photoshop. The solution is clear. Adobe needs to get off their butts and add the ability to hide fonts from the main font list.
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Then I end up turning the favorites into a list that filters out the crap fonts instead of using it for the intended purpose of showing me my favorites.
What are you really saying?
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What do you mean? Let’s say for the sake of making an example that right now there are 100 fonts showing inside of Photoshop. Of those fonts let’s say that 35 are useless to me. That means I need to put 75 remaining fonts into my favorites in order to have a list that filters out the ones I do not need.

However of those 75 not all are my favorites. I might have 15 fonts I use as favorites. Not I have sacrificed the favorites list to get rid of the fonts I do not use at all and have no way of filtering to just my favorites.
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Exactly! :-D
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I so agree, I hate having to scroll through all the fonts.  I already have an app for that, I don't need them all in PS
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A font browser/filter popup dialog from the hamburger menu in the characters panel sounds like a good place to stick that, IMO. Power users could multi-select and dump fonts to and from an "Active" column to an "Inactive" column. It would also help troubleshoot stability issues since poorly made or corrupted fonts tend to cause lots of problems.
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Lorem ipsum place holder has been a feature in other software for years.  It seemed logical to include it in Photoshop. Better yet, if you don't like it you can disable it.
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If you are seeing Apple Braille, then you're running on a Mac.  The functionality to disable fonts is available from the OS by default via Font Book.  No reason to duplicate existing functionality.

The fonts you are complaining about are included by the OS for compatibility and support.  Photoshop gives users access to MANY different kinds of fonts -- which is why we try to work with any font, from any source on the OS.  So again, the point of filtration should be the OS.

If you've got more than about 500 fonts, you're going to see system performance degrade.  And there isn't anything anyone can really do about it; resources are finite, though lesser machines will slow down with fewer fonts.  In deed, disabling fonts is a GOOD THING as it reduces overhead for ALL your apps.  Another reason it should be handled by the OS.

So, given this limit and that you can mark the ones you like best as favorites, 90% of the problem is solved.  To do the rest is actually quite a bit of work that wouldn't be useful to most users -- and the interaction between apps can be a serious killer -- what happens if you've disabled a font in PS but you use it in AI for a smart object in your PS layour...?  No, Adobe used to have a font management app, but really, that is the domain of the OSes for a number of good reasons.  Font management needs to be applied uniformly across applications.  People already complain that Photoshop is trying to do too many things beyond image editing -- font management sure seems to fall into this category as well.

To disable Lorem Ipsum, which was a user request (not all users want the same features, just as not all users use the application in the same way), go to Preferences > Type and uncheck Fill new type layers with placeholder text.

Thanks,
David
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I see where you're coming from and I'll log a feature request to block the display of fonts in the menus.  To be honest, however, I would expect a lot of push-back on such a feature for the reasons I detailed.  Clearly if Apple went to all that trouble to make it impossible to remove these fonts, then it would be unwise to disable them as their presense could be required for unforeseen reasons.  Hiding their display in the font menu could be a work-around, but that's liable to be work which management might not agree needs to be done.  If you have user-stories you could share, that would be helpful to get this work prioritized.

Thanks,
David
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I would respectfully disagree that the OS should be the gatekeeper for fonts. There are a lot of "Compatability and support" fonts that are exactly that... utility fonts with no purpose to a designer or artist in the context of photoshop. I agree that if you're fumbling through 500 3rd party fonts, you should be using a font manager or uninstalling unsuded ones, but we're talking about the big list of crud that comes with the OS and Office Suite for instance. The number of times I'll be using "MS Outlook" or "Dubai" in photoshop is exactly zero.

Giving the option of hiding or filtering those out in the menus to power users is not the same as just shutting it off by default. This isn't something that would be accidental, "I bumped my elbow and now all my system fonts are missing". Put it in a hamburger-menu-option dialog and it's safely tucked away where only people who know what they are doing will get at it.

Aside from not having them clutter the list, the menu not having to generate preview thumbs for those fonts might be a performance boost.
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If the OS is dependent on a font, why in world would you want to try and hide it. 
There are so many REAL issues with software, why pick on something like this.
But if you want to have a font not show up in a program, it would be nice to have a way to hide it not try to disable it.
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@dennis - When was the last time you needed "Wingdings" or "MS Reference Specialty" in your mockups?
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David, 

Thanks again for your reply. I do not know what stories I could share but it seems like most people who have chimed in on this thread agree that it is frustrating having a list of fonts filed with fonts they never use. So I think it would be a good usability enhancement that makes dealing with fonts in Photoshop more pleasurable and productive. 
You could also tell the bosses that there is a very good chance the Mac is ported to ARM processors and leaves Intel within the next 5 years. And when that happens MacOS could end up looking even more like iOS in terms in Apple locking down the operating system which means in-app font management might become even more necessary. 
BTW I am very curious as to how font management will work on iOS. If you go from a file created on the Mac where you can install font files and open it on Photoshop for iOS where you can not install font files on an OS level.