Lightroom Classic: Different "Move To" functionality

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Not sure where to suggest a new feature but moving chunks of files between folders and having them appear randomly in the new location is very frustrating.  Would love to be able to select a bunch of photos, select "MOVE TO" and then enter both a folder and a position number and have the moved to the new folder at that position.Note: This conversation was created from a reply on: Lightroom Classic 8.1: Custom Sort Order Problem.
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Not sure you understand how files are store in computers.  They have no inherent order.  the order you see is determined by how the application sorts the files.  In Windows file Manager or Mac Finder, click on a column header to sort the files that that field.  In LR it's controlled by Sort option at the bottom of the grid.  If you have selected "custom" order in LR then you can drag and drop them where ever you wish but that is not changing any physical order of the files on disk, just the order ot the thumbnails in LR.
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I made no mention of how files are stored on disc and this isn't at all relevant to my request.
If I have two custom sorted folders inside LR, and move the files from one folder to another (via drag in LR) the moved photos appear randomly distributed amongst the existing photos in the new location.
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Sorry I misunderstood.  In your scenario assuming both folders are set to "Custom" order, you are dragging a set of images from one folder to the other folder (dragging them to the folder name in the Folders panel).  In this case you would like to be able to have the set of images being moved to show up in a specific place of your choosing in the destination folder.  Right?  Fair enough.  

I did t little experimentation and it seems that the new images are inserted into every other slot.  new image 1 goes between original 1 & 2.  then new image 2 goes between original images 2 & 3, etc.  Sort of like when you shuffle a deck of cards where the cards in the left hand get alternated with the cards from the right hand.  I suspect that the images in the source folder are numbered internally according to their position in the source folder and the same is true for the images in the destination folder.  Then they are placed in the new folder according to those numbers resulting in #1 from dest folder, #1 from source folder, #2 from dest folder, #2 from source folder, etc.  Seems an odd way to do it.  Probably more accidental than deliberate.  


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The custom order you have set, for Display In the LR Grid view area and in the filmstrip, in one folder is for those images that are already in that folder and how you arranged them. LR has NO IDEA what order new files should have in that folder in relation to the existing files in that folder. Computers and programs are getting smarter but not that smart. It can't read you mind and even though you have a custom order in the folder the images were Moved From that order it for that folder and not the one you Moved them To.
Again LR has NO IDEA what order they should be in in that New folder they were Moved To.
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I don't expect LR to be able to perform magic.  As Dan mentioned, interleaving the two sets of photos is particularly annoying.  Playing them in a block at the beginning or the end would be fine.  This is not the LR method.  Being able to move them (as a block) to a particular spot (ex: image #) is the purpose of this request.
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I understand what you are asking but I think the sort order of the destination folder will determine where the images are placed.
If you have the destination folder sorted as file creation date for example..... what (in your opinion) is the expected behaviour if you drop a set of custom sorted files?
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For my application, both lists are custom sorted so I would expect LR not to attempt to sort them.  Merely move them as a block, to a specified image number (as suggested).  Or by default to tye beginning (or end) of the set.  Anything other than the current seemingly random location with new/old files being interleaved.