Lightroom: detachable palettes a la Photoshop

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All palettes (keywords, quick develop, etc) should be detachable and the positions savable in sets the same way that they are in Photoshop.
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paul archer

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john beardsworth

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Why? What would this allow you to achieve better? Lightroom isn't Photoshop.
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I'd be plenty happy if I could just spread the panels onto a secondary monitor (preferably Library + Develop + Thumbs, with a single full-screen image always at the ready for viewing/developing...). Overall, I think the panels are nicely done - easy to get to any tool in an instant - no need to float or recombine or re-order... I just want to make full use of multi-monitor screen real-estate and not have to switch back and forth between library and develop modules, with the context differences and switching lag.
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I see detachable palettes as being the best way to achieve what you're looking for (ie everything on one monitor except the image, which is on another monitor).
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To clarify why I'm looking for this particular feature:

I'm trying my best to keyword my images. I've got a huge collection, and it's taking me a long time.
I'd like to have a grid view of my images filling one monitor, with my keyword list running from top to bottom of another monitor, and (an expanded, more-than-nine) keyword set next to it. And maybe the quick develop and collections palettes available as well.

I'd really like to see Lightroom move away from the "you have one monitor, maybe two" mentality and offer the flexibility that Photoshop does. I actually have a four-monitor setup, but can't use Lightroom on more than two at a time. If I could have grid view on one, loupe view on one, and my palettes on a third, I'd have the perfect setup.
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Paul,

I'm with ya.

"But", some UI toolkits allow flexibility without additional cost. From what I can tell, Adobe has *not* used such a toolkit in Lightroom. My guess is that they have invented much of the UI code themselves in order to make Lightroom how it is (clean and nice, but not flexible).

So, it may be a fair bit of work to allow the infinite flexibility that some apps have.

My only reason for making a distinction is so Adobe is clear:

I don't need infinite flexibility. And if most people don't, then they *may* be able to accomplish the objective with less work. For example, would it suffice to have a set of radio buttons in the preferences to specify which monitor for which palette? (and maybe an option for number of items in kw suggestion/set lists) - That *might* be easier (for Adobe) than inventing drag 'n drop 'n save positions...

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I'm all for infinite flexibility, if its not too much work. But, I would hate to give up content-aware fill to get a flexible UI. So, if there is a way to have both...

PS - The second vote was mine ;-}

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- In case you don't know, its easy to have just keywording (or any other set of sections) open by using solo mode and shift clicking the additional sections. Granted you can't distribute the various "subsections"...

Rob
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Thanks for the 'solo mode' tip.

I do agree that I'd rather see more flexibility, but not at the cost of other features. OTOH, if they standardize on a GUI framework, then there's less maintenance in the long run.
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Some people have voted for an entire module devoted just to keywording.

Probably not a bad idea, since one of the most frequent complaints from keyworders is that the "paragraph" style makes it harder to see keywords than a long list - one to a line. But then it would get really crowded in a single panel.

Anyway, I hope Adobe works toward UI flexibility too. The present multi-monitor support is nearly useless, to me. I would prefer a solution that works for 3 or 4 monitors too...

Personally, I see multi-monitor UI flexibility tied to an integrated design such that panels are just that - toolsets, which could be shown or hidden (or moved) without much "to do". However, presently they are tightly coupled to the module, and modules are very independent and require quite a bit of initialization.

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The most thorough solution may require a lot of rework/redesign - more than just new widgets... For that reason, I would suggest no breath holding - but maybe Adobe will surprise us...