Lightroom: Ability to delete the default develop presets

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[You can now hide the built-in presets in LR 7.3 using a free plugin or manually with a multi-step recipe.  --John Ellis]

It is now possible, though tedious, to delete the built-in presets in LR 7.3 and later. See this recipe: https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/delete_default_develop_presets?topic-reply-li... --John Ellis]

I really would like to be able to delete the develop presets that ships with LR3. I don't use them as they are in the way of my own presets when using the Library Module.
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I wish that Adobe would follow the users request. I never use the default develop presets as I have my own and it would be much easier to organise without all the default presets there. There should be the option to remove as for the own ones  as every user should have the choice if he needs them or not! Please listen to all your customers who said the same thing over the past years!
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Please Adobe, wake up on that. No one is needing these crappy presets after they've spent more than a month with LR. It cost nothing to you to let us being able to remove (even hide) them, this is using space on our busy screens...
Are you listening to your customers? It's not because you have the monopoly on that type of software that you can ignore us.
And honestly, it takes a couple of hours for a senior developer to do this...
Thank you.
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Louis, see my reply to this thread below. It might help you.
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Sorry David, it doesn't work for me. These things are hardcoded into LR.
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It's very easy to delete Lightroom's default presets.
  • Open Lightroom preferences (see illustration 1) Under Lightroom menu (Mac) or Edit menu (PC)
  • Select the Presets tab along the top row. (see illustration 2)
  • From there, click the "Show Lightroom Presets Folder" button at right. That opens the Presets folder within your drive's Library.
  • Open only the DEVELOP Presets folder to reveal the default Lightroom Presets folder. Leave the User Presets folder alone.  (see illustration 3)

  • Now QUIT LIGHTROOM.
  • Once your LR app has quit, you can safely delete the Lightroom Develop presets folder, or specific presets within it. Be sure to leave the User Presets folder there.
  • REMEMBER, only re-installing Lightroom can bring back default presets, so its wise to back them up first.
  • Once you have deleted any presets, close that window and you can re-launch Lightroom. The deleted Develop presets should be gone.
  • NOTE: You can also use this method to quickly organize and group favorite presets into folders as I have as seen in the illustration. Be careful when naming folders and presets, use only alphanumeric characters. 
  • A blank word space before the preset name or folder name will put it at the top of the list.
  • NOTE: I have only done this on a MAC, so PC users could get different results. Let us know!
  • Use caution whenever changing names or folders 'behind Lightroom's back'. Always save a backup of anything you alter this way, just in case. And ALWAYS operate with Lightroom not running.






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This doesn't work on current Lightroom version, only on older versions.
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Ariel, My screen shots were made this morning on the current version of LRCC. I actually deleted the LR default presets to test it and rebooted.The ability to delete the default LR Develop presets does not appear version-dependent on my Mac, but I cannot speak for the same on a PC. 

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Unfortunately, your recipe doesn't work on my LR CC 2015.12 / OS X 10.12.6. Here's a screen recording showing that the Develop Presets folder doesn't contain the built-in presets, even though they appear in the Presets panel in Develop:  : https://www.dropbox.com/s/3qb5xrwvavwc2xr/Deleting-default-presets.2017.09.19.mov?dl=0
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John,Thanks for making your video.  I can only surmise that Lightroom puts the default Presets folder somewhere else on that OX version, or for some reason adds it into the app package. I am running El Capitan on this Laptop, where it works on LRCC  2015.12 .  
Could they reside in a Lightroom Settings folder within the Pictures>Lightroom folder?That used to be one of Adobe's schemes in earlier versions.Sometimes a search for a default preset's name can reveal it's location, but newer OS is pretty opaque to searches once they reside outside of user-level folders. 
I'll be interested in seeing if you ever locate their whereabouts.
If I could edit my earlier replies, I'd clarify what OS I found this working on.Feel free to delete them if need be.
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On Mac, the names of the built-in preset folders that appear in the Presets panel  are hardwired (compiled) into LR ("Lightroom B&W Filter Presets", "Lightroom B&W Presets", etc.).   They can't be deleted without hacking LR compiled code. 

The .lrtemplate files themselves are stored in this Mac directory:

/Applications/Adobe Lightroom/Adobe Lightroom.app/Contents/PlugIns/Develop.lrmodule/Contents/Resources/templates/

You can delete the .lrtemplate files to prevent them from appearing in LR, but you can't delete the folders (which are hardwired, as described above).  If you try to delete the /templates folder, you'll get an error message on startup and none of LR's modules work.

I haven't investigated Windows for several years, but I'm pretty sure the situation is similar.
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Yes, hard-coded indeed.
I think the best real-world solution is to make a new Develop Presets folders and populate them with custom or imported presets. At least when LR is not running, those can be easily accessed as I described earlier, then re-organized into single-level deep folder structures. The Preset and Collections GUIs are showing their age, and will hopefully improve in the future.
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I'm no longer able to find the Develop presets.  The folder used to be in the Lightroom > Develop Presets folder.  It's not longer there.  Now there are seven worthless folders at the top of the menu.  They don't even allow multiple levels to help keep the presets organized.  What's with this?
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Lightroom Classic CC 7.3 now comes with FOURTEEN folders of hard-coded presets. This is mind-boggling, and a colossal waste of screen real estate.

Please, let those of us who don't use them just get rid of them.
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This is really strange we can't delete them without going under the hood. I never use any supplied presets for anything, it's just taking up valuable real-estate in my workflow. 
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After some sniffing, snooping and digging, in Lightroom 7.3 it is now indeed possible to delete the default Develop presets, and the default new profiles as well (personally, I have zero use for any of the modern, vintage etc. presets that look just like Instagram filters - who's still using those anyway?:-))

On Windows, the files are in two locations: one for Lightroom (the presets) and one for ACR (the profiles). Both locations contain both the presets and the profiles, but it seems that Lightroom pulls the profiles from the ACR location too. I zapped everything that I found superfluous from both locations while Lightroom wsa not running, then started Lightroom, and they’re gone. YAY!

So, WARNING: Restarting Lightroom does indeed not restore these files, so make sure to make a BACKUP of the files before you delete anything. I’m not responsible if you wreak havoc on your installation.

That said, the two locations on my Windows 7 64bit system are:

c:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Lightroom Classic CC\Resources\Settings\

c:\ProgramData\Adobe\CameraRaw\Settings\Adobe\

If anyone wants to add the locations for a Mac that would be swell.

Cheers
Alex.
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Thanks!
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Not sure this works on Mac. Couldn't find the folders. Anyone?
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Rather than hack into the program files, I suggest you launch Adobe Camera Raw and go to its Presets tab. You can hide groups of presets there, and AFAICS those settings are reflected in Lightroom.
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Would be great to allow this in LR as well.
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Indeed. I never use ACR.
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Nope, John. I am afraid unfortunately it is NOT working using the GUI only. And opening ACR for this single purpose is ludacris. :-(
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Getting rid of the default Lightroom develop presets.

I do not need the
default develop presets that installed with Lightroom Classic CC 7.3. 
Unfortunately, they cannot be deleted.  I tried deleting the ones buried
with the Lightroom.app file (Mac High Sierra).  They still show up and
they still work.  

 

But they can be
hidden from view.  And for me, out of sight is out of mind.  Here's
how:


  1. Open
    an image in Adobe Camera Raw.  If for some reason, you can't open an image directly
    into ACR, follow steps a.& b, otherwise, skip to step 2



              a. Open an image in Photoshop as a Smart Object

              b. Double click the Smart Object icon in the Layers Panel

                      This opens the image in ACR


  1. Open
    the presets panel

  2. Right click on the preset
    set you wish to hide

  3. Click on "Hide This
    Preset Set"

  4. Repeat for any preset sets
    you wish to hide.

  5. Click OK to close ACR

  6. Close the image.

  7. Return to Lightroom

  8. Close and restart
    Lightroom.  The offending presets will be gone.



 Hope
this helps to alleviate some of the pain of upgrading to Lightroom Classic
7.3.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled I do not want the new Adobe created presets in Lightroom..

They are  a pain, I don't want them, I don't use them they just slow down my workflow. I have been using Lightroom since the second pre-sale beta trial way back and have developed all the presets I need. Come on Adobe give your customers what they want. We are the guys who pay for it after all. While you're at it let us sort the order of the preset folders too. Great piece of software otherwise, many, many thanks for that.
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Adobe please do something about making these optional at the update stage if you won't allow them to be removed once installed.
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Here's a full recipe for hiding and deleting all of the built-in presets, on both Windows and Mac, with step-by-step for those not familiar with Photoshop, Camera Raw, or Mac Finder packages. (Nearly all CC subscribers will have access to Photoshop and Cameraw Raw.) (This recipe merges previous posts with partial recipes.)

1. In LR Library, select a photo and do the menu command Photo > Edit In > Open As Smart Object In Photoshop.

2. In Photoshop, if you don't see the Layers panel, do Window > Layers.

3. In the Layers panel, double-cick on the thumbnail to open the photo in Camera Raw:



4. In Camera Raw, click on the Presets tab (A):



5. Then right-click each preset folder (now called a "preset set") and do Hide Preset Set (B).

6. Delete the "Classic" presets provided by LR:

Mac: a) In Finder, do the menu command Go > Go To Folder and paste in the following path:

/Applications/Adobe
Lightroom Classic CC/Adobe Lightroom Classic
CC.app/Contents/Resources/Settings/Adobe


Click Go. Delete the subfolder "Presets". 

b) In FInder, do Go > Go To Folder and paste in the following path:

/Applications/Adobe
Lightroom Classic CC/Adobe Lightroom Classic CC.app/Contents/Resources/Settings


Click Go. Delete the subfolder "Classic".

Windows: In File Explorer, delete these two folders:

C:\Program
Files\Adobe\Adobe Lightroom Classic CC\Resources\Settings\Classic



C:\Program
Files\Adobe\Adobe Lightroom Classic CC\Resources\Settings\Adobe\Presets


(You may wish to move these folders to your Documents folder, if you think you might ever wish to see the built-in presets again.)

7. Restart LR.

8. After installing a new version of LR, repeat these steps.
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Obviously, it would be much better if this were finally built-in to LR. (I voted for this idea seven years ago.) But in the meantime, this workaround can help people get their work done while patiently waiting for Adobe.
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John, thanks so much for clearing this up.  I've tried various versions with partial results.  You've made it easy and it works.  It's not quite as easy as if Adobe listened to its customers and gave us buttons to do it on top.  Regardless, thanks!
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I was skeptical but I can confirm this workaround does indeed work, thank you John.
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I just released the free Fix Presets plugin that lets you hide and and unhide all the built-in presets with a click of a button. The plugin also provides workarounds for a number of other develop preset issues.
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That works a treat, thank you very much! Up until now I was just renaming all the .xmp files to .xmp.disabled, but this is faster.
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Thank you so much for this plugin! Works as great as your PSB Quick Look (love it!).
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled how to delete default presets Lightroom Classic CC 7.3.1.

don't want default presets. 

why new version can't manage in folder like older version. 
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See my previous post for a workaround.
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Great news... Lightroom Classic and the entire Lightroom CC ecosystem now have the ability to hide sets of presets, including the default presets.
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Ad Dieleman

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Noticed that this morning, what a reliëf!
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Could you tell me how? I'm not seeing anything about this!
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See this screenshot for where to click:
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Official Response
The ability to delete the default develop presets has been modified to allow you to hide them instead as of Version 7.4, We are closing this as implemented. We hope it helps keep your workspace tighter!
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I don't mind having the presets be preloaded, but why can't I change them so they are in one pull down menu instead of 14.  We should be able to choose what presets show up in the Develop Presets Module, because it is very distracting to have so many pulldowns.  It's not crazy to ask to have a check box or something to toggle them on and off when we want them to show up there or not.  I should be able to hide the ones I'm not interested in and bring them back if I change my mind.  This is a full blown program for advanced users, not Lightroom Light or something along those lines.  Most people know what they are doing and want to customize their experience to best fit their workflow.  Why is Lightroom making things more complicated than they need to be for their users.  This is just bad UI and really needs to be addressed.  Please take this serious Adobe.  Pretty please with sugar on top.
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Emma Dorey
I believe a 'work-around' can do close to your suggestion-
While the Adobe Default Groups are visible in the Preset Panel- Add only the ones you want to use to the "Favorites" Group- Then Manage the Presets and 'Hide' the Adobe defaults.  I found that you can keep selected default presets in the 'Favorites' Group and hide the rest.