Lightroom: Ability to delete the default develop presets

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[You can now hide the built-in presets in LR 7.3 using a free plugin or manually with a multi-step recipe.  --John Ellis]

It is now possible, though tedious, to delete the built-in presets in LR 7.3 and later. See this recipe: https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/delete_default_develop_presets?topic-reply-li... --John Ellis]

I really would like to be able to delete the develop presets that ships with LR3. I don't use them as they are in the way of my own presets when using the Library Module.
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Lee Jay

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Not in any simple and straight-forward way.
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We do not recommend/support deleting the default presets. That said, users have found ways to do it - that you can try at your own risk:

http://www.pixiq.com/article/getting-...
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I would like to know too. 
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Diko

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#Jeffrey, I see I forgot to thank you for the link. You know... it's never too late... I hope ;-)
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None of these presets add value, no uses them. Why can we not delete? That link doesn’t work and it’s such a waste of scroll space.
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Bethaney Martin

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None of these presets add value, no uses them. Why can we not delete? That link doesn’t work and it’s such a waste of scroll space.
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Bill Allsopp

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The link does not work so please Adobe doe something about making these optional.
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Henry Claude Blenk

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It doesn't make sense to force your users to use them, and doesn't give them an easy way to remove them, even if you install a folder where all the user presets go to.

Why don't u just install them in the "userspace" to give your users the ability to easily delete the presets they don't like?

I deleted them in all of my LR versions, but I could't get rid of the folders.
And they are disturbing me immense.
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In other parts of LR, this is done differently: E.g. for the local corrections or the file naming templates, you can delete the factory-supplied LR presets at any time, and if you want them back, simply restore them. Why not have it the same way for the development presets?
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I never use Lightroom's default export presets. In fact, I can't. My computer doesn't have a CD drive, so "Burn Full-Sized JPEGs" isn't even possible. Since I can't use them they're just taking up space at the top of my export list.

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Lightroom: Allow default export presets to be removable.
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I want the ability to remove/delete or rearrange default presets from LR.

At least in LR3 they could all be consolidated to a single folder - now they are each in their own categorized folder and I have no need for any of them, having developed my own presets that match my shooting/editing style.

While it's "not much space" taken, it is jarring to have to skim over the extra folders, and constantly make sure not to organize my presets without a number at the beginning so they fall above the defaults. I can't even rearrange them to suit my own organizational preference.

Being software developed for photographers - and many of them working into advanced skills, I know there are others who would like the same option.

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
LR4 Default Presets - ability to delete/rearrange/rename.
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PLEASE allow us to delete the default Lightroom Develop Presets!
I hate scrolling through presets that I do not use or want to get to my presets that I DO use. It is a waste of my valuable time! Even if I delete the presets in the folder, they still appear. Make them go away PLEASE or at least allow us to turn them OFF so all we see are the presets we WANT to see.

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Lightroom: Please let us remove the default Develop Presets.
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Paul Alexander

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This is top of my list of things I do not like about lightroom! Why am I not given the ability to remove these? A decent explanation from The lightroom team would be good as opposed to a copy and pasted reply.

Paul.
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This topic is 2 years old. Adobe is not interested in our wishes, only in maximizing their efforts (rent the software)...

Forget about it.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Removing or disabling default presets in Lightroom.


I know about the work arounds for this and i can understand the possible reasoning for hard coding these into the develop module, but.....they are annoying!

Would it be so hard to add a tick box into the preferences menu that could "hide default presets" so those of us who have moved beyond the basics can start to organise our own develop presets without being forced into some unlogical method of doing so.

many thanks,

Paul.
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I also want to remove the visibility of the default Lightroom Develop Presets from the Presets Panel. I have never used the default presets ever as I have my own presets. I hate having to stumble past the huge list of Adobe presets to get to my own.

This thread is 2 years old and we're at LR 5.4. Are the Programmers/Customer Support/Product Managers even listening to the users?
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Has Adobe disabled "real" feature request for Lightroom?

You get a feature request form if you select Illustrator but you're directed to the community forums for Lightroom feature requests. What gives?

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For future readers: Adobe has made this feedback forum the official way of submitting "real" feature requests and bug reports.
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PLEASE allow us to remove the default presets & preset folders. We're adults, we can handle choosing which presets we want and which ones are useless to us.
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Sean McCormack wrote a "white paper" describing how to do the job:

http://lightroom-blog.com/2010/09/19/...

Note: in Windows 7 you may need Resource Hacker or the like.
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This was written for LR3 and it breaks LR5, at least for me. Error upon opening LR: "Error changing modules" then the program freezes.

I tried putting an empty "templates" folder back in where the default was removed, LR5 opens and works but still shows each of the default preset folders, there's just no presets in the folders. Doesn't really help.

The point of this post is that it's insane that Adobe won't let use simply right click and remove these default presets, or as others have suggested, have a way to toggle them on or off.
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Thanks Josh - I assume you are talking about the Mac.

I wonder if the instructions for removal on Windows are still valid (I haven't tried).

PS - I understand people want Adobe to provide a supported method..

Personally, I don't mind hacks, if you only have to do them once, but since this one has to be redone each update, that takes a lot of the fun out of it, for me..

Cheers,
Rob
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Yes I am on Mac, sorry for not mentioning that. No idea if the Windows version still works.

I don't mind doing some minor hacking to remove this kind of stuff either, in LR1 & LR2 they kept the defaults in the same place as user presets - that was a perfect way of doing it, don't know why they ever went away from that.
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It works in LR CC, but the stupid Presets folders stay in the list :-(
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Lightroom 5: please allow the user to hide/remove the default LR develop presets.

Default presets are clearly beneficial for new users – whether used to simplify complex functions for the most basic users; as demonstrations of the software's capabilities; or as departure points for exploration. However, once their usefulness inevitably wanes, good software design should allow for those presets to be hidden or completely removed.

Unfortunately, this is not the case with Lightroom's default 'Develop' presets, which are not only useless for advanced users, but, more importantly are:

1.) hardwired into the software;
2.) waste valuable screen space (taking up 7 folders in the most collapsed/hidden position);
3.) behave inconsistently with other Lightroom default presets (nearly all of which are user removable);

I suggest that Adobe restructure how Lightroom handles it's default presets. I'm a commercial photographer, and definitely not a coder, but from other Adobe products it seems the best method employs the following pattern:

1.) 'OEM' default presets are included in the application bundle (and therefore available for a 'reset default presets' option)
2.) global defaults presets are stored & registered in the root "/Library/Application Support/Adobe/Lightroom/" folder (or PC equivalent), allowing users to edit the global defaults
3.) user application preset remain as they are, stored & registered in the user's "~/Library/Application Support/..." folder

As such, a user has the option of completely removing the global default presets if desired (while retaining the option to restore them to their default state).

In researching a solution, I found that I am far from alone in this request. The following thread was one of the more relevant:

http://forums.adobe.com/message/57404...

(Pleaes note: while I appreciate johnbeardy's software and useful contributions to the LR community, I can't disagree more with the relevance of his reply to the linked thread indicating that 'some things aren't designed to be customized'. The current implementation of LR's default presets is both poorly designed and internally inconsistent – and should absolutely be customizable.)

Thank you!
-Matthew
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I just released the Any Preset plugin, which lets you work very quickly and efficiently with large numbers of presets in both the Library and Develop modules. One of its many features is the ability to hide the built-in Lightroom presets.
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Please fix already.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Removing the Lightroom presets.

it would be great if users had the ability to remove the Adobe provided Lightroom presets if they did not want to use them. This would save about 7 lines of information and reduce scrolling for those that have a lot of preset folders and want a cleaner look.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled LIGHTROOM - Please, let us remove default presets..

It's very annoying. I always have to look for my own preset folders among all the default ones that I never need.
I don't mind them being there to begin with, but why won't you let us hide them?

(Otherwise, I love Lightroom. I'm sorry. Thank you (: )
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My solution-
Create new presets in a FOLDER that begins with 'A' or a Number '01' (The folders of develop presets sort alpha/numerically-before Lightroom) Then your presets in that folder will always be at the top of the preset panel. Move (drag & drop) others from "User Presets"
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled stop hard coding lr development presets.

they take up seven spots that I need for my own presets
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Diko

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ONe of the many nonsenses in Adobe LR. :-(

stop hard coding lr development presets very good title, indeed! :-)
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Lightroom has so many things that need updating to make it useful, and removing these useless presets from the list is nessesary to make it not feel out of date, yet also all of these:

* Custom crop need to be in cms and named (right now it converts to inchces!)
* Develop presets need to be able to see in the main window (guess in the old days it was too slow) 
* HDR or panorama creation should be done in the backgorund (it completely blocks the interface!!)
* Face recognition should use the users suggestions and use tags and learn and be able to select many intelligently and not show bricks and grass etc as faces - (look at Google Picasa)
* Map module use a name in the file or folder to place it
* Web module use the social media instead of the outdated html, be able to use Zenfolio, Smugmug, Google etc transparently (right now they rely on third party modules which is a mess)
* Print module need a fast easy way to select paper and print full (instead of having to drag edges etc, just be able to select A3 would be the absolute most logical thing)
* Full screen mode should be able to show information, so it can be used for flaggin, starring without blindly trying to remember what was there
* Need a basic search for name in the entire library without having to find the root folder, invoke search, select text search - also be able to find folder names (why is Picasa much better?)
* A possible fast view without having to wait, simply showing the jpgs to be able to flag and star without being stopped or slowed down, waiting for develop

...and many more...
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If you want your feedback to influence Adobe, it's best to post one idea per topic. That will allow others to contribute and make it more likely Adobe product developers might notice.
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How has this NOT been resolved yet??? This post started 5 YEARS ago, and advanced users want to be able to delete these presets because they take up much needed room on the left menu bar. We want the space and the speed back! With all the LR presets available on the market only rookies use these built in presets. Once you learn how to install any presets you never go back to the originals. Once you're past that you literally never ever use these and they are useless and taking up space. Users (especially professional photographers) want to be able to delete these defaults right from the develop presets folder. There is no reason why these default develop presets shouldn't be listed there and able to be removed. This needs to be addressed! It's about time! 
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled LIGHTROOM: Let Us Remove Default Presets AND Their Folders.

Joining the voices of those who've been asking since 2010 for the ability to remove the hard coded presets, and the folders they're categorized into, from the preset panel. I understand the logic of them being in the program - even difficult to delete - for the novice editor learning how to use the workflow, and protecting them so that they can't accidentally be deleted. The usefulness of this device wears out (in my case) in about 4 months (and I'm not a fast learner). Your professional customers are dying wading through a panel that's half filled with useless, storage consuming, interface marring presets, that even when collapsed take up 7 spaces in the middle of the alphabetically sorted panel. I've had people tell me they jumped ship to other editing programs for this very reason. This should not be a difficult thing to accomplish, and it is clearly something your consumers want.

While I'm in the demanding mood - SUBFOLDERS. Let us create them.
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I second that! I could live without sub folders but I so want to delete ALL Lightroom default presets!!!! I haven't used any of those for 3 years and it slows down LR significantly and clutters up my work space to have them take up so much room in the left hand side panel!