Lightroom Classic: Allow for keyboard shortcut customization

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Customizable keyboard shortcuts in Lightroom would be great. I just find it so confusing that crop and brush tools and things like that have such odd keyboard shortcuts in Lightroom. I understand that changing that all now would be awful for many existing users, but being able to override them like I can in Photoshop would be helpful. Doesn't anyone else out there find they use to wrong keyboard shortcuts in the wrong program?
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  • slightly frustrated.

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Custom keyboard shortcuts would address many requests, including this one about additional shortcuts for basic adjustments.
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I can't believe this hasn't been part of Lightroom since the beginning. Having different shortcuts for LR and PS is asinine.

Keyboard Tamer is a total kludge and the developer is non-responsive to questions even after a nice cash donation to his cause.

C'mon Adobe, this is much needed!
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Also adding programable shortcut keys to presets, like actions in Photoshop.
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Diko

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I need that SO MUCH!!! Especially the custom presets.
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Actually indeed the The Keyboard Tamer has it all made available. But limited to one modification if not paid.
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With Lightroom having such a huge amount of users by now, wouldn't it be about time to implement configurable keyboard shortcuts and stop burning all non-US/UK keyboard users?

Br. Jay

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Configurable keyboard shortcuts in Lightroom.
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This does it for free:

PADDY for Lightroom
https://sites.google.com/site/dorfl68/
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Thanks for the tip Chris - Paddy looks real good, although I haven't been able to save a script yet...
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THANKS! However it is a work-around and NOT the solution. Adobe... do you hear?
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Customisable keyboard shortcuts with the ability to add them for the develop slider settings, i.e. white balance, black, exposure etc pleeeeeeeaase
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We want to be able to customize everything (sort of like paddy) and not have to rely on expensive third party support that break with updates to lightroom.

This should be supported in lightroom itself. PLEASE!
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Why isn't there a keyboard shortcut for access adjust exposure, recovery, temp, tint etc? This will allow easy mapping of gestures, wacom keys etc to quickly change stuff.

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Direct Keyboard Shortcuts for Develop Adjustment tools.
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Given the versatility of the new Wacom Intuos 5 Touch Tablet and its radial menu it would be nice as in Photoshop CS5 and CS6 if you were able to add shortcuts to menu items to use with Lightroom 4. I have a lot of additional shortcuts added in Photoshop CS6 that are on my Radial Menu that make it much fast to perform certain tasks. It would be nice if I could have more custom shortcuts to use in Lightroom 4 and beyond. Thanks for your interest in our feedback it what will always be one of the reasons I come back to Adobe Products.

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Lightroom 4 custom shortcuts.
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That is my issue as well.
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Bought a Wacom Intuos Pro tablet as well, only to find out Lightroom doesn't have a custom keyboard function—making using the tablet not that effective and resulting in having to go back to the keyboard.
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What were you hoping to accomplish with your wacom tablet and keyboard shortcuts?  What were you going to use the keyboard shortcuts for?
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This is really very basic functionality that is missing in my opinion. Lightroom's biggest weakness is how its interface limits productivity by forcing you to use the mouse for everything when the keyboard is so much faster. Paddy is great but just one guy with limited resources. Please Lightroom Team, do this and do it right so we are able to get the most out of the software we've purchased! Thanks, Matt
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Keyboard Shortcuts, give us choices..


I cannot tell you how many times I have accidently dragged a finger on my keyboard and suddenly, I’m in an alternate universe. Yes I am talking about the myriad keyboard shortcuts in all Adobe products. One misplaced stroke on the keyboard, and your screen may change dramatically as you have inadvertanly pressed an unknown key and have to try to figure out how to get back to wherever you were. I would be amazed if there was even one person in the world that has all the keyboard shortcuts in every module of LR memorized. So here’s my suggestion and I have to believe it would be easily implemented by your brilliant software engineers (I mean that, they really are).

How about a preferences tab with a page for each module that would allow one to turn off, or turn on the keyboard shortcuts. It could be a simple checkbox for “All On” or “All Off” with “All On” being the default. But it would allow one to check on just the ones needed. That way, a person could start with some basics turned on, and then add more as they become more proficient. You know, the old “baby steps” theory.

I really hope you take my suggestion to heart and implement it. It would make LR an even more fabulous piece of software.
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Aperture has a great implementation of customizing keyboard shortcuts. As a new Lightroom user I would love to see Lightroom have a feature as easy to use as that!
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I can't believe this ticket is 5 years old. 
Decent keyboard shortcuts would improve productivity by miles. (And lessen RSI)
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled AZERTY Shortcuts.

Dear Adobe,

I've been using Lightroom and Photoshop for years now, and paying quite a lot for this, and I have the following issues:
- In Photoshop, I cannot use many shortcuts unless I remap them manually
- Worse, in Lightroom I cannot use the shortcuts. Period. You don't even allow me to go through the hassle of remapping them.

Unless I'm mistaken, we AZERTY users don't get a discount even though you are providing us with an extremely degraded software.

This is unacceptable. It has been unacceptable for years.

DO SOMETHING
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This is not a bug actually, it's a lack of functionality in Lightroom, please help million of users to do something simple like, for instance, to reduce or expand a stack of pics with one touch.

please, help us!
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled keyboard shortcuts in lightroom.

it would appear that i am not alone in this request. i have always found customised keyboard
shortcuts very useful, i use them in photoshop. why then has lightroom got no option for this?
it makes no sense have it in other adobe programs, but not this one. 
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It seems to me that Adobe thinks every professional photographer LOVES the mouse.
Clicking , dragging , moving is easy and visually but also very primitive and slow.
Keyboard shortcuts are not just quicker, they prevent RSI. If you do suffer from RSI you realize how terrible the mouse can be. 

As paying subcribers of professional software we should be able to map our keyboard shortcuts if we want to,
Dear Adobe, Stop thinking that you know what is best for your professional users. You don't.

If you call something Quick Develop but then all you can do is use a mouse only to add exposure or contrast then you are missing insight. 

You want me to double click the word EFFECT all day to reset my adjustment brush? 
Yes you can create a preset, so then i would have to click and drag all day to get simple behaviour you should be able todo with 1 keystroke on your keyboard.
The time it takes to use a mouse action vs a keyboard command times 1000 images.
Go calculate that.

I should be able to set a default size radial, and have a shortcut to add this radial to my image.
Yes you can create a develop preset for that, but i can't map a keyboard shortcut.
Command Option drag your mouse to duplicate a radial is NOT a shortcut. 

Obviously the people that are designing this product are not professional photographers that have long editing sessions.

And i don't need any tips about Better Touch Tool, Pfixer, Midi2lr etc which are all fantastic tools that make Lightroom actually usable. But these are all created because Adobe fails its paying professionals on a very basic level. 
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Just when are Adobe going to give us the vastly superior and more rapid to use customisable keyboard shortcuts in Lightroom.  It would make so much difference to so many photographers - speeding up workflow immeasurably
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Open Letter to Adobe

Dear Adobe Management

The request in this thread is now 7 (seven!) years old now and still you keep ignoring it. Even more frustrating you force non US-Keyboard users into not working Shortcuts which are not even consistently localized or just faulty.

It is about time to help making you understand one tiny little thing in the relation between you and the subscribers of the CC (formerly known as "customers"). Let me explain.

Years ago, we just could decide if we liked the program and its functions and consequently buy it or not.  It was known to us what we well get as a customer before buying. And we had to beg for a function, see if you implemented it or not then decided whether to buy the next release or not. So far so good. A fair game.

But then, you, Adobe, decided to change the game. You forced us into a subscription model. As a user this means not being anymore able do buy something we know in advance what it might look like. We have to subscribe and sit and wait for which weird experiments you would abuse us to your Product Managers delight  (And you keep adding silly functions rather than solving the real issues). You chose this pace, you named the game. But the biggest decision you took when acting so was possibly not understood by your management: With this model you made silent and passive customers to STAKE HOLDERS which you can consider being the same as a share holder (You need to earn every single month our trust again so we decide every month to pay your fee).

And as we are your stake/share holders we do not want to beg anymore. We do not ask anymore and we do not want to be overheard anymore. We will just demand and you will have to deliver. That's what you chose, not we.

I strongly invite you to think about this. I am one of these, your, stake holders and I really would appreciate to get finally an answer to this topic. Any stake holder wants to know where the money he invests will go to.

I wish all of you a very calm easter period and and a little time for some reflections about how you could satisfy us users not your own product managers. We do not demand fancy consumer functions (again it was your decision to create the LR cc Branch of Products for this which I appreciate). So for LR classic this more then ever means: We expect you to finally deliver. A rock solid and fast production tool is what we expect from you. Time is up. Our patience also.

Make us happy again and deliver. This will keep us financing your company.  BTW: these days finally there is real and eye level competition out there, and I can tell you from personal experience: They DO listen to customers.

Best Regards
Martin 
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Victoria, thanks for yor comment. I woldn't even complain if there were just default shortcuts which at least would work. Trouble is they are simply not working for many localisations. Not even the most basic ones like resizing the brush are useable in some localisations. My complaint is far away from a convenience wish. Its about basic features simply not working excluding whole countries from a normal and efficient workflow. Yes I know Switzerland is small... but they keep us punishing with much higher fees compared to e.g. Germany (same language but different kb lsyouts). And guess what is their explanation for that price premium? Exactly the explanation that localisation for small countries is costly... Still I feel being a surcharged customer of 2nd class.
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> Trouble is they are simply not working for many localisations

IMHO, that's the argument that needs shouting about, as it holds a lot more weight than simply "I want to be able to pick my own shortcuts".  For what it's worth, this may help with your localization shortcuts in the meantime How do I change or create keyboard shortcuts?
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Dear Victoria
Don't get me wrong. I am not just a shouter. I tried it all. File it as a bug, write them, contribute to Beta testing filing this... for years now. Never ever got any response from them. Te only reaction once was some guy sending me a link to the adobe help pages where they have the (also buggy!) list of german shotcuts. Of course I answered the support guy, again explaining exactly what I mean, showed every step to reproduce. No reply, case closed and "solved". Believe me, I tried it all. Can't remember how many times.

I would even take all the work and would clean this up for Adobe if only they would let me contribute.

And Yes, of course, I know all about the shortcuts. Even have bought KB Tamer, which also has many drawbacks. I really almost scientifically dismantled TranslatedStrings.txt and KB Tamer. Even if you directly parse, sort and edit the .txt you will not succeed. Many of this settings you can edit there will also not show the intended effect.

So my simple wish was :
1) Make Adobe aware that there are many countries out there which although they shre the same localisation language they have different KB layouts, so that not even basic keys like #, /, ... can be accesssed wit hone stroke. Let me tell you my case: I use a swiss german keyboard which differs from german-german keyboards. So the german language indended keys just are not there. The same problem seems to exist with french and spanish and swedish localisations. They also seem to be used by users in different countries which have the same language but not same  keyboards.
2) Make them take care of their official shortcuts lists on the help site which (at least in german) not even correspond to what I see when I look into the TranslatedStrings. It is indeed very messy done. Even the structure of the content in Translated Strings is unbelievably inconsistent and messy. So just a matter of Software quality in my eyes.

KB Tamer also cannot solve this mess, uses admin rights and many a time an Adobe update just wiped my thouroughly and carefully built custom file silently from the disk replacing it again with the messy stock files. That's why this is als no solution.

I hop you understand now why I finally just somehow tried to be heared. At least I could now get your attention, maybe Adobe also finally will her us. It's not my private convenience problem its a real showstopper for hundreds of thousand users out there.

So far so good. You don't have to fear that I as a long term subscriber of you will stain your reputation when you write comments on me. I am just so sick and tired that I needed to get somewhat loud eventually.

Thanks for your attention ann have a nice easter holiday time! 
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Apple can do it (Aperture’s keyboard customization is excellent) but Adobe can’t/won’t. It’s pathetic.
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I understand the frustration Martin, especially when it comes to the translations. You're not the only one frustrated by that, for sure.
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I agree with Martin Hopf's observations about keyboard shortcuts for non-English languages.

Adobe invests very little in this. For starters, there appears to be a complete lack of quality assurance, with elementary editing mistakes in other languages' TranslatedStrings.txt frequently released. For example, a quick search reveals this partial list:

https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/x-keyboard-shortcut-is-assigned-to-two-functi...
https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/x-keyboard-shortcut-is-assigned-to-two-functi...
https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/lr-2015cc-8-short-cut-x-to-reject-an-image-in...
https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/lightroom-shift-x-no-longer-does-reject-and-n...
https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/lightroom-classic-cc-keyboard-shortcuts-for-r...
https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/lr-classic-on-windows-the-shortcut-panel-in-d...
https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/incrementtargetadjustmentvalue-does-not-work-...

These bugs, though they're trivial mistakes, typically take two or more release cycles to fix. Most recently, it took five months to fix the broken rotate-photo shortcuts. And even then, Adobe neglected to fix the list of Library shortcuts in the Help menu, even though that was explicitly called out in the bug report.

Ways that Adobe could improve the situation:

1. Invest more in product management, documentation, and quality assurance of non-English shortcuts. This requires engaging experts knowledgeable in the supported languages and countries and their corresponding keyboards and then building an engineering process for maintaining and testing shortcut definitions, which Adobe apparently lacks. (TranslatedStrings alone is hardly sufficient.)

This alone won't address the needs of languages used in multiple countries with differing keyboard layouts.

Over the years, Adobe has not been able to implement solution 1 at an acceptable level of quality. It would be significantly cheaper for them in the longer run to simply improve the infrastructure for customizing keyboard shortcuts and rely on the user community for maintaining a diverse set of shortcut definitions for each language/keyboard combination. 

A few simple, incremental, inexpensive steps would go a long way:

2. Ensure that every keyboard shortcut is defined in a configuration file that can be edited by users, e.g. TranslatedStrings.

3. Clean up the internal organizational mess in TranslatedStrings to make it easier to maintain. It currently looks and smells like a teenager's bedroom.

4. Allow keyboard shortcuts to be defined in a config file separate from TranslatedStrings. This would make it easier to maintain and allow the community to more easily share shortcut definitions and avoid the accidental overwriting of the config files by LR updates. It would also allow the automatic generation of authoritative, complete documentation of shortcuts, which Adobe currently doesn't provide.

5. Allow plugin keyboard shortcuts to be defined in the config file.

6. Provide a GUI user interface for editing the config file.  Or just rely on plugin developers to provide such a utility (e.g. the next release of KB Tamer).  

This combination of a clean config infrastructure, community-maintained keyboard layouts, and plugin-provided GUI would be a huge improvement over the current situation and would kill two birds with one stone: let users customize their shortcuts and provide much better support for non-English languages.  Faster, cheaper, better.
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> Provide a GUI user interface for editing the config file

I could see this being done via Lightroom Web much more easily than integrating into Lightroom itself. Enter your desired shortcuts and download a config.lua file it outputs.
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John, as always, thanks for taking the time to clearly order stuff. I've shared this with the Lightroom team.
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John,
The proper role of product management is only to specify which languages/keyboards etc need to be supported.  The focus of product management should be on the choices of which languages/keyboards to support, and which not to support.
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LR 8.0 reintroduced a previously fixed typo with the Group Into Stack shortcut in German.  There's clearly a broken internal process...

https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/lightroom-german-keyboard-shortcut-for-group-...
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I'm glad this keeps coming up again. Lightroom, Camera Raw, and Bridge have all ignored our requests to customize shortcuts. I don't understand why. When the main programs all added customization, they were pushing for people to become aware that they could do this instead of complaining about a missing shortcut, or one that ran counter to the typical shortcuts other apps had adopted, but not these apps.

I realize it's not a JDI. It's a major feature, but it's not a trivial one to the users, either. Maybe first has to be performance, tethered shooting, and integrating better with its kissing cousins, but I'd hope that it's rather high on their priority list. I, anyway, could enjoy using LR more if the shortcuts made any sense to me.
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Loupedeck+ is the answer.  A keyboard with dials and sliders and customizable keys for Adobe Lightroom Classic CC, Aurora HDR, and Adobe Premiere Pro CC.Lightroom.

Yes, it's pricey, but the increase in the efficiency of one's workflow will realize the benefits quickly.
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I would be lost without it, and a lot slower in my workflow too
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It's a brilliant invention.  I was a bit disappointed when there was no firmware upgrade path from Loupedeck to Loupedeck+; however, the redesign and manufacturing quality, which was outstanding in the original, was improved in the + version.

Bloody Finns really know how to make great, cool, products.  It was the + version which prompted me to finally upgrade to LR 7.
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Adobe please.

Lightroom is fantastic but my efficiency is bottle-necked to a fairly extreme degree by this lack of shortcut configuration.

So many tools I frequently use require awkward movements. I use a big screen so moving my mouse to click on a tool requires a lot of arm and hand adjustment. If I use the (forced) default keyboard shortcuts I have to keep looking down at my keyboard to find the key, if it's not where my hand is resting comfortably I have to readjust.

Both of these points may sound trivial but the accumulated time and effort consumed by simply manoeuvring the application takes away so much from the experience. I find it really difficult to zone in and really make progress when I have to either readjust how I'm sitting to move the mouse across the screen, or turn on the light so I can see the keyboard.

Pleeeeeeeease Adobe! Please. It's. Been. 8. Years.

So much productivity can be set in motion by this simple change.
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Ah, the keyboard shortcut plea. Been going on for, what... three years that I've been following this thread? Four, perhaps? Anyway, I feel your pain but, just in case you were labouring under the illusion that Adobe is listening to you...

STOP IT!

Adobe is not listening to you.
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Well it's a bit late, as I've already made the post...

Why is this website here if they aren't going to listen?

I understand that this post being around for 8 years makes it unlikely to happen, but this is a really important feature for me. If I have any chance of making an influence I'll take it.

Your pessimism is the only irrelevant labour here. People come here to be heard, and some random dude on the internet saying 'STOP IT!' isn't going to change that.
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Very well. Knock yourself out.
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Adobe product developers do read most everything posted here, though they reply to only a small fraction of the posts.  And it's been clear over the past nine years that posts here sometimes do influence Adobe's thinking.  But there are so many feature requests, and the LR team has fairly limited resources, so most feature requests don't get acted upon. 

But users should continue to provide feedback, because Adobe does read these posts, and because they're continually getting new blood on the team and evolving their thinking.  A post I made about keyboard shortcuts was circulated to the product team a while ago:
https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/custom_keyboard_shortcuts_in_lightroom?topic-...
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> Your pessimism is the only irrelevant labour here. People come here to be heard, and some random dude on the internet saying 'STOP IT!' isn't going to change that.

Yeah. It's kind of like refusing to vote in a democracy. Voting may not get you what you want. Sometimes it may only prevent something you really don't want from happening, if enough people voted the way you did. But not voting does nothing at all to help. So if you want Adobe to listen, vote, and take 2 minutes out of your life to justify your vote to Adobe. It may not make Adobe do anything, but it isn't that hard to do, and slowly, slowly, we may reach a critical mass. We can't know before we "waste" 2 minutes of our life on the subject.
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Please please please, add the ability to edit the keyboard shortcuts for Lightroom!  I customize my keyboard in AE, Premiere and Photoshop... why not have the same ability in Lightroom?  I don't mind learning weird shortcuts, but my most used features don't seem to have them at all and I always have to go to a menu... My #1 most used item - Open layers in Photoshop... As a Real Estate photographer, all day long I am doing this...