PHOTOSHOP - current layer color picker oddity

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I have inconsistent behavior with picking color from current layer when the particular layer is in multiply mode. The picker works fine for a short amount of time, then it starts picking up off colors.

Even when I make only this layer visible and I turn it back to normal mode this happens:
The lower left is the original sample ring, the green hue is picked from the blue part, the yellowish hue is from the top.

What you see below is a screenshot of a screenshot... the second sample ring is from a new document with only the screenshot pasted into it when I tried to sample from the former sample ring.. this is what happened.

I'm using the latest PS CC.

 
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That sounds like the eyedropper tool is set to pick a large area instead of a single pixel -- averaging the pixels in that area (thus getting more blue as you move closer to the blue area).
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a screenshot of your eyedropper options would be helpful.
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Oh, it seems like I haven't submitted my reply 2 days ago. It's pointless to wait for a new response then, isn't it?

So no, I always use point sample with color picker... also no way averaging would make the resulting color brighter and more saturated.

Still, here's a screenshot:



I also checked if I'm in a exotic color model or space - nope (it's RGB / sRGB), or perhaps I accidentally checked proof colors - nope. Nothing is weird, everything is as it's always.
Also as I said it even works as intended for a while, then there's that. It's the color picker.


On a completely different side note:

Why does the soft edged brush's cursor has this very ugly - and utterly useless - edge nowadays?

(sorry for the crappy photo)
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Now can we see a screenshot of the layers palette?  I'd guess that you have opacity reduced for that layer, or a blend mode other than Normal.

A few days back GetSatisfaction (the service that runs the forum) had some problems with their database, and was down for over a day.  That ate a few of my replies as well.


Brush cursor:  Because you chose to show the full size of the brush in Photoshop's preferences (that is not the default), and the outer edge is dithered.
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Chris, a million thanks again for the quick reply, but please listen!
Here's my case again step by step:

As I wrote, the layer I wanted to sample from was in multiply mode. It colorized multiple grey layers underneath. I didn't want to pick the darkened colors with "sample from all layers" so I used "current layer" as always when I need it. (note: there wasn't any adjustment layer in the document at that moment.)

After a few minutes it wasn't the color of the layer what I picked up. Strangely enough it wasn't even the combined color of the whole document. That would have been darker.

As my original screenshot shows, I got lighter and more saturated colors. That's clearly an event you wouldn't expect.

Also that screenshot clearly shows that I tried to pick the color with all other layers turned OFF. When there's only one layer visible (and also that's the active one) there's no way I should have sampled any other color than what is visible there. No matter the blend mode and the opacity.  But this is what happened.
(I did turn it back to normal mode just to test but no change.)

Then again I showed a screenshot of a screenshot what's from a blank document. I just pasted in an opaque screenshot so no blend mode other than normal and no opacity at all.
Still it picked up odd colors.

I only wrote to this forum when after a PS restart it happened again, and then after the next restart it was still a problem. I tried to make sure I'm not wasting our time here.

Brush cursor: my bad, I fiddled with the options and I remembered this as the default.
I never cared for the difference but now I tested them and realized that at "normal brush tip" the soft cursor of the same sized brush is smaller (I guess to frame the more opaque area) 
In this case the full sized version is way better to guess the size of the soft stroke but the dithered edge really bothers me. Why is it needed to be like that? It doesn't show any relevant information.
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I can confirm that the eyedropper is picking up random colors when set to Current Layer. It works for a bit and then starts going wonky for no apparent reason. This is on a multi layer image with no adjustment layers or blending modes active.

OSX.10.5 / Nvidia 780 / PS2015.1.2