CS6 big 16-bit Smart Object crop then zoom shows severe noise

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Open an 8800x8800 pixel 16-bit RGB TIFF in Camera Raw. Change
the temperature. Open in Photoshop as a Smart Object. Type C
for the crop tool. Select Unconstrained. Drag a corner handle
inward. Press Command-1 to zoom to 100%.

See transparency briefly, then the progress animation, then a
very noisy version of the image, with rectangles of the correct
image embedded. The noise is like a digital camera image shot at
very high ISO, with lots of chroma noise and very low contrast.

Preferences > Performance > Use Graphics Processor checked or
unchecked makes no difference.

Workaround: check (gear icon) > Use Classic Mode.

There's also no problem if I flatten the image, or convert the
file to 8-bit.

No other crop options make any difference to the problem.

hardware: MacBook Pro 17 inch, 2.4GHz Quad-core Intel Core i7
working space: ProPhoto RGB

Help > System Info...
Adobe Photoshop Version: 13.0.1 (13.0.1 20120808.r.519 2012/08/08:21:00:00) x64
Operating System: Mac OS 10.7.5
System architecture: Intel CPU Family:6, Model:42, Stepping:7 with MMX, SSE Integer, SSE FP, SSE2, SSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, HyperThreading
Physical processor count: 4
Logical processor count: 8
Processor speed: 2400 MHz
Built-in memory: 8192 MB
Free memory: 1370 MB
Memory available to Photoshop: 7161 MB
Memory used by Photoshop: 69 %
Image tile size: 1024K
Image cache levels: 6
OpenGL Drawing: Disabled.
OpenGL Drawing Mode: Advanced
OpenGL Allow Normal Mode: True.
OpenGL Allow Advanced Mode: True.
OpenGL Allow Old GPUs: Not Detected.
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OpenCL Version:
Video Card Vendor: ATI Technologies Inc.
Video Card Renderer: ATI Radeon HD 6770M OpenGL Engine
Display: 1
Main Display
Display Depth:= 32
Display Bounds:= top: 0, left: 0, bottom: 1200, right: 1920
Video Renderer ID: 16915206
Video Card Memory: 1009 MB
Video Rect Texture Size: 16384
Serial number: 91199981517320233480
Application folder: Macintosh HD:Applications:Adobe Photoshop CS6:
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Try turning off GPU drawing, then retry or reopen the document.

This sounds like a known problem with the 16 bit GPU shaders.
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Whether "Use Graphics Processor" is checked or unchecked makes no difference.
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OK, the only issue we know of that could cause such noise is a GPU shader problem (which we're still trying to track down - it only seems to affect some GPUs).

Could you post an example of what you're seeing?
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That's not noise - that's some sort of memory or display corruption.

Please try turning off GPU features in Photoshop preferences, then creating a new document and trying again.
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Would you please explain exactly what you mean by "try turning
off GPU features in Photoshop preferences"?

In Preferences I click the Performance tab and uncheck "Use
Graphics Processor". I see the same behavior whether the "Use
Graphics Processor" box is checked or unchecked.

After dragging the crop handle, the last part of the window title
changes from "(RGB/16)" to "(Crop Preview, RGB/8)". Maybe
there's a bug in converting from the 16-bit file to the 8-bit
preview?