Photoshop CC 2019: Transform/Resize is constrained by default - Want ability to go back to legacy behavior

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When selecting a layer and dragging a corner handle with the shift (or alt-shift) key pressed, the resize proportion isn't constrained. This started with this most recent update.
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new feature, use Shift to *un* constrain.  Constrain to fixed aspect is now on by default.  
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mounir salhi

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Adobe needs to listen to their customers, changing the scaling behavior and the Cmd+z was a big mistake.
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Alexandra Giamanco

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Mounir: they did, the problem is that those "customers" they listened to are retired and have no deadlines or set workflows to follow. Nor do they pay their mortgages with jobs that use Photoshop.
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For gods sake learn your lesson - YOU CANNOT CHANGE DEFAULT BEHAVIOR LIKE THIS !!! It is NEVER EVER ACCEPTABLE nor desirable. Another one of those stupid "improvements" that everybody hates and Adobe has to roll back. Who the f ... signs off on these things? Insane. Could we PLEASE get through 2019 without anymore of this "improvement" crap ?
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Thank you Michael Madsen!
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Mariah Parker

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Yes, please!! No more stupid 'improvements' that wreak havoc on those of us who use this program on a professional basis!!
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How do I turn off the new proportional scaling by default behavior while transforming layers?

To revert to the legacy transform behavior, do the following:

  1. Use Notepad (Windows) or a text editor on Mac OS to create a plain text file (.txt).
  2. Type the text below in the text file:

    TransformProportionalScale 0

  3. Save the file as "PSUserConfig.txt" to your Photoshop settings folder:
    • Windows: [Installation Drive]:\Users\[User Name]\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop CC 2019\Adobe Photoshop CC 2019 Settings\
    • macOS: //Users/[User Name]/Library/Preferences/Adobe Photoshop CC 2019 Settings/





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I was in the user folder but sure enough, Library was hidden. First time I did try "Go to folder> Library" and it didn't take me directly to user Library...only after I unhide the folder.

Thanks! you saved me!
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I'm glad you were able to work it out.

Since Adobe never announces its modifying a feature, we won't know if they'll do something to make this more user friendly or not— until they do it or don't.  '-}

I was using Procreate on my iPad with layers of images today—I've only recently begun to use it—and when you click on the Arrow that brings up the Transform and Move/Flip, etc., controls, by default Procreate sets the controls to free transform. It wasn't exactly sticky, either, so here I've trained myself that mobile apps use constrained transform by default, PS uses constrained transform by default, and now I was constantly resizing an image only to have it distort—same problem I'm having in Illustrator.<sigh> In Procreate I had to keep remembering to look at the controls, rather than simply start transforming on the document.

This is truly a mess across all the apps and desktop programs. Anyway, Procreate has been around a donkey's age, too, on mobile devices, so defaults are obviously anything the app designers want them to be.  If there's some standards consortium that they're all moving towards, I haven't seen the results yet with the apps I have.
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The MacOS hiding thing needs to be a preference if it isn't already. I don't need my own computer hiding files from me. LOL 
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For anyone having trouble getting to the correct Library folder on macOS, do the following:

1. Select and copy the following line:
~/Library/Preferences/Adobe Photoshop CC 2019 Settings/

2. In the Finder, choose  Go > Go to Folder... to open the Go to Folder window.

3. With the text field in the Go to Folder window active, choose Edit > Paste and then click Go.

Alternatives:
• In the Finder, hold the Option key when choosing the Go pulldown menu to show the User's Library folder in the Go menu list.
• In the Finder, go to Help > Search and enter "Library" and then hover your mouse of the results "Menu Items: Library".  A large blue arrow will reveal the User's Library folder.





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To be candid, this solution is not acceptable. We pay a lot of money every year to use this software. We shouldn't have to go writing & moving config files around our system folders. At the least, this should be a checkbox option somewhere in preferences or in the UI.
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Particularly unnecessary since SHIFT is stilled used to constraint other things like brushes to a straight line and cropping. Retrain to not use SHIFT for only one tool (?) 
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Traditionally, shift is used to constrain in several non-Adobe programs. I would think most software users have adopted that is a defacto command.

I hope this becomes a user preference
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Adobe just HAD to be different, so they made it that you had to hold in Shift to constrain. Just about all other apps auto constrained and scaled based on the selection handle you scaled with. So all people started adopting Adobe's change... Now they introduce it as a "New Feature" instead of saying - sorry we messed up all these years.
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This is by far one of the most stupid and unnecessary changes!
They broke the most basic rule: Never fix what is not broken. 
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Heinrich Helmbold

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Well they broke that rule a very long time ago and people adopted it as the norm. Now they are trying to fix what they fixed when it wasn't broken
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I don't remember it worked previously differently than till now. When it worked like now then?
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Nolan Conley

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Don't forget the Crop Tool change in PS CS6.... that was a masterful screw-up if ever!
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Nolan - Yeah, they screwed that up too, but at least they put a Use Legacy checkbox there that worked. Check that box and you're good to go. 
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One thing I am starting to be more aware of it when you click too far out of the transform bounding box, it stamps the change. It was only today that I realize I hate this after wanting to select all to rotate the entire image slightly.

Even if it's a tiny effort to have the cursor closer, these little things add up and are just annoying.
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I also became aware of the same thing. . . even using the distortion has caused me grief. . I've wasted too much time and brain energy on CC 2019. I've gone back to 2018
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Instead of fixing bugs I hated in CC 2018 (they moved them to CC 2019) now they introduce new ones that what's 'funny' are intended (problematic) behaviours :/
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Mark - Fully agree. There are many times where you WANT to move your cursor farther away from the corner to make very minute changes, and now if you go too far, bam, you've committed the transform. So far I have yet to see, although I may have missed it, any kind of mea culpa from Adobe saying that they indeed, did eff it up and will have a fix shortly. In the meantime, the text file works fine but does not increase the safe zone around the frame during a (not so) Free Transform.
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Christ, I couldn't work out what this problem was, infuriating sorry.
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Each recreated feature should have option to revert.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Please add a toggle button to allow for legacy scale options..

It used to be that to maintain proportional scaling, a user would hold the shift key while scaling. In Photoshop CC 2019 the proportional scaling is done without pushing anything, but now when you hold the Shift key it UNLOCKS proportional scaling.

To just change the scale tool to be backwards relative to how it has very literally always been without an easy way to change it back or any documentation the first time you use Photoshop CC 2019 is ridiculous. It shows that the people making the software don't actually use the software.

The fix is easy: Instead of making some one line script file, have an in-app toggle switch to allow for legacy scaling proportional.

I've been using Photoshop for 25 years, and this is absolutely 100% perplexing.
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I agree, that change was not needed for anything :(
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The fact that so many users have had to trawl through forums to find out how to use a tool thats worked perfectly well in one way for years, is ridiculous. 
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You're supposed to just "know" that you should click on the What's New below the app name to get to a page that tells you what's new.

But I do see a couple of significant usability issues. For one thing, the What's New is hardly prominent. It could be so it acted more like a warning than marketing, just in case you were interested.

For another, when I look at the page, the whole new Transform and Auto-commit is under the heading "Usability Improvements." Way to be so boring and technical on that page, no one reads it. The headers, imo,  should be the feature names to direct our attention, not "Usability," or "Top Customer Requests." They could even use heads and subheads so they could put Usability Improvements underneath Transform and Auto-Commit. Subheads were invented a while ago, I believe.

But it's not as if they don't tell us—they just do it very quietly. '-}
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It's not that you cannot easily find the "feature" under what's new. It's just a bad feature. I did not hard to find out in 3 minutes that they reversed the constrain.

Further, Adobe's Whats New Page did not offer a fix there, someone here supplied it.

Most people find these features while working. Whats New Page would just make you frustrated in advance before finding them.
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Finding a "fix," since there wasn't officially a hack to "fix" transform, isn't the same issue as " users have had to trawl through forums to find out how to use a tool thats worked perfectly well in one way for years. . . " You didn't have to trawl to find out how  it worked, only notice that there was a central location for finding out what was new before you went any further. You may think that reading the What's New page just makes you frustrated in advance. I prefer to know in advance what to look out for and test —before I make up my mind that it's a good idea or a terrible idea.

And I do think that better headers, like having a good index (which we don't have for the online guide), helps people quickly find what interests them. Getting their attention is half the battle in good design.

But yes, to fix Transform—since they didn't intend for us to choose to go back or they'd have given us a legacy setting—you do have to search hard, and in fact, had to wait for someone to supply it. Not that I think it's a genuine "fix" if you have to hack code to do it.  <g>
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Anyone who wants this change needs to "Me Too" at the top of the page... that's how the requests get prioritized. I am not sure if merged pages add their "Me Too"s...
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I think we were using shift back in the Quark Xpress days, also a lot of audio software, cad software, any program even using shift select - multiple selections are rarely made by default. In general shift is a function that skips manual steps or loose movement ie. constrain.
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I wasn't aware of, but sounds good when someone likes to mold shapes from that kind of material. The only tools to transform that unproportionally are your hands and insensitve nose of course ;)
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You meant in Quark Xpress and other apps shift worked like in CC 2018 or CC 2019?
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No I mean that things like drag in a straight line, select multiple objects, rotate to angles - these kind of functions are rarely done by default in most software I've used. 

Shift is widely know as a constrain or multiple selection function. It is a convention. Open up a folder in Windows and click on several items in a list. Would you want to multiply select without shift.

I'm not arguing, I am only discussing this in principle - as it could be a slippery slope. 
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Now I understand. I have the same opinion. The example with selecting multiple files with no 'shift' was one of better I heard :D Such simplicity would kill the logic why modifier keys even exist. They are support for additional operations. If we revert it we're going to 'lose' time not on holding them, but thinking whether we should do that for certain action as now I see some operations need them while others inconsistently don't.
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Bug. Maintain aspect ratio constrain link on the toolbar does not work in cc 2019.
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Need to look at this bug also with the constrain link -

When you un-check the Maintain aspect ratio constrain link on the toolbar and then use transform it still maintains aspect ratio. . . un-checking the link should disable maintain aspect ratio shouldn't it? Well it doesn't.

Also shift key + transform disables Maintain aspect ratio but doesn't correspond with the constrain link on the tool bar. 
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I think we can all agree that there should be a preference toggle and the "Maintain aspect ratio" constrain link on the toolbar should function properly. Additionally, a popup blocker to notify users of these changes to default behavior and a checkbox in that dialog to set the preference is a MUST HAVE for future changes like this (and the "auto-select" feature of the move tool).

That said, the decision to flip the default behavior is not a bug. It's an inconvenience to retrain habits, but I know that I and a lot of others transform with constraints on far more (like, 90% of the time for me) than not, so for us, this is a workflow improvement. I will be not have to be constantly holding shift with my pinkey finger! Thanks Adobe!

Let's ask for a preference setting, fix the aspect-ratio button in the tool bar, and cut down on the "I can't believe..."s and "How could they..."s.

Will there be some initial frustration when we hold shift and the transform box goes all wobbly? Sure. What's the solution? Let go of the shift key. There are more disruptive and destructive bugs and changes that we can focus on.


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Thank you Rosa. :)
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Mrs. Giamanco,  Sorry for the gender confusion.  Thanks for the explanation about the use by 12 years olds.  I am not personally a big fan of Scott Kelby, but that is a different subject.  I happen to prefer the change to the free transform and have talked to others who agree.  That does not change the fact that the change has annoyed many.  I think that some go too far in their assumption that everybody but 12 year olds and occasional weekend users wanted it changed back the way it was.  It would make much more sense for it to be a preference.  I did not request this change.  I have never been involved in Adobe research.  I do not do free transform often enough to develop what some have fairly called "muscle memory".  I presume the reason I prefer the new way is that most of the time when I use the tool I want to constrain proportions and more often than not I forget to hold another key down.  To me holding down shift is not too hard and not holding down is not too hard.  I have been using Photoshop for 22 years.  I am sure I have not had anything to do with why Adobe made this change.  I am not even sure why I have been reading every post on this thread.  I am just weary of the "me too" one sidedness of the comments.  I am not sure why I care.  Just for the record I am lot older than 12.  I am neither a weekend user nor a professional who makes a living working on Photoshop.
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Well, when you freely admit that you don't use FT enough to develop automated muscle memory, that pretty much says it all. I often times use Free Transform a hundred times a day  or more and not just for scaling. I use pretty much every modifier key that affects how the tool works and while the script fixes most of this crap, there's still the shortened "auto commit" distance which trips me up all the time. That's another muscle memory sort of thing they screwed with without asking. I'm still skeptical that they can get it right, especially when they quite apparently thought this was the right way to "transform" the program.
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@Mr. Gray: No worries; just didn't want that to get perpetuated the wrong way.
It is fine to not use the Free Transform, it's not a requirement to use it. I sort and crop in Lightroom too because I like to print, but when I work in Photoshop I use Free Transform on almost any graphic or image I edit/create, and since version 5, so this was a completely necessary move, and I hope Adobe restores the default to "FREE" Transform, and adds a check box on top somewhere, (or in the preferences), so that anyone who wishes to keep it constrained by default can without messing up our workflows.
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I meant “UNNECESSARY” change.
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I first looked at the calender, this last update totally felt like the best April fools software prank ever intended. But no! It's a feature. Just forget your more than 10 years of experience! Throw aboard the fast way of working you are used to! Hey, you beloved power users out there, just shut up and make room for another classic "Adobe duh' move" where they pretend to know their people and try to sell us the most unintentional shiat possible - so everybody is raging about that, rather than the old and poor single core architecture of their software.

Adobe, you have all the eyes and ears in the world, why do you not just ask your community beforehand??? I can't understand software behemoths like this one... all they have to do is listen! What is this board good for anyways?!

Btw, there is a "back-to-legacy"-setting for every little thing BUT that one! WHY?
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I read enough many theards from last 15 years on different forums about Adobe. Conclusion is they won't listen us about some stuff they want us to enforce to get used to. And that will happen for sure as they know majority of us has no choise and will use Photoshop the way that's beeing redesigned for making more money purpose.
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I think, they want us crying here together in a closed room so nobody takes a notice.

There are now many reviews out on many sites about the new CC2019 features. If you comment there in the open blogs, this reach many more people so there can read about, check it, an discuss about it.

Maybe Adobe would react slightly quicker than.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Photoshop 2019 Change the Free Transform pipeline back!.

I hate that I can't turn off uniform scale. Adobe, if you're listening. Turn free transform back to non-uniform scale! I HATE THAT I HAVE TO PRESS SHIFT!
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Does Adobe actively hate its users?.

Does Adobe actively hate its users? Or is it just a joke to reverse the lock proportion in transforming (shift key)? Actually curious who thought this was a good idea.
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In a month or so you don't even remember that you had to hold that key down in the past.
Not true - me and many other users changed this new behaviour back to that how that was for over 20 years. So you'll have 2 group of users, and that would be best option to respect all.

That is not light or dark leading theme of Photoshop users set like they want. But if you allowed us to have even four colours Photoshop is adjusted to, then what is problem to do the same with that what 'shift' should do?
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I'm scared of next AdobeMax! Everything looks so nice on there, but in practise that's something we wouldn't like to have. Like that was said. Focus on bugs they live from 5 - 10 years then try to implement some new features....
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I think I've said this before. Old school is not the cool school. 

Old school is probably what Adobe built their fortunes on. Please respect the old school Adobe. You have a lot to learn from us. 

Thank you.
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That's easy for them to do that they want. When we are not users they have to make something we will like, but after they got your money and enforced for subscription they don't have to listen us - we are already in cage. If there was must to buy next Ps before our money was on their account they would do everything to encourage us to buy their product. That had to be really good, like that was in Creative Suite times. There's no campaign in monarchy to make everything we chose their Photoshop release. We're stuck in their kingdom, and I even suspect previous versions of Ps are not fully fixed before next one is beeing released as that would make people to not upgrade to newest one. Such brutal politics.
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I've been using Photoshop since it first came out. Using the Shift key to constrain proportions is one of the cornerstone key commands of the application. To arbitrarily switch to the opposite action, after nearly 3 decades, is unnecessary, illogical and completely tone-deaf to the core, long-time, loyal users.

I've lost a lot of billable work time to go back and recheck sizing of graphics, because of Adobe's shift to NOT constrain scaling update. So who may I send my invoice to at Adobe?

Change it back! I'm not able to justify this ridiculous hinderance of my workflow and I don't have time to get our IT department's approval to mess with the code of the Photoshop application.

We're mad. We're frustrated. We're YOUR customers!
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Photoshop CC 20 - scaling proportionally using shift key no longer works.

After the new release (CC 20), scaling proportionally using the Shift key no longer works. When scaling you need to click "Maintain Aspect Ratio" button now, which is NOT good as some of the time you want to be able to transform freely and other times you want to keep the ratio - the Shift key was a nice feature that avoided having to hit that "Maintain Aspect Ratio" button every time you need to switch between free transform and keep ratio transform. PLEASE bring it back!!

And also when in the transform mode, the "center" is no longer visible. So when hitting the alt key to move the "rotation center" to another spot, it's no longer visible, so you don't know what you're rotating around...
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Yes, he is one of my favorite people to follow for tutorials Rosa.
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The best.
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Thanks for that, I did not know that preference. I'm ok with that one.
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Though having a preference is usually a good thing, I still prefer having more exposed on the Options bar. I have a visual clue as to how I last "set" my preference, I can toggle it on and off, I am way less likely to think something is "broken" just because I've forgotten a preference.

So I wish Adobe would put more of those preferences on the Options bar. They gave us the narrow bar option, and that leaves plenty of room even with my laptop. If they'd do what others do and put all those align and distribute icons into a simple drop down with the icons, they'd even have a ton of room left over when the Move tool is active.

I want more prefs, not less, but having more of them in my workspace is better than having to hunt for them. I think the majority of users don't even look at their preferences, so it should be obvious by now that's a terrific backup, but more exposure for the ones we commonly need in a context-sensitive setting like the Options bar or even the Properties panel would be even better.
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Following you I suggest something close to Properties panel like Preferences panel that we can customize to our needs to keep there only those preferences we're not sure / aware how they got set, or we often change (that would be too inconvinient to do that fastly by regular Preferences where we have to look for certain ones amongst all of them).
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This new "feature" is completly stupid, if you change this kind of things, do it well. If you transform a vector layer it's still the default behavior, so when you're on the new keyboard shortcuts, you have to know if it's a pixelised layer, you don't hold shift to get proportional transform, and if you're on a vector, you have to hold shift... It drove me totally crasy. Not to mention that in all other Adobe apps, it's still holding shift that is the dafault behavior (illustrator, indesign, etc.) Thanks for the tip with PSUserconfig file, it worked nicely, and I'm back to mental sanity
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Look at there are differences also between transformation of Smart Objects, Text Objects and also Path Objects. And you have good point. When we switch to someone's computer the only reseting preferences wouldn't be enough. Normally that is some shortcuts are popular so we could handle Photoshop with that we met, but when within one program there are 2 kinds of methods to do the same for similar actions you feel like sitting to car you knew how to drive is like you are in airplane that is new vechicle for you, you have to learn how to make if fly.
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I completely agree with the ones who want the possibility to switch back to the previous defaults for proportional / non-proportional transform.
Also the new "feature" auto-commit should have the option to switch back to the previous version: if I am transforming a selection with narrow opaque areas, if I click on it in order to drag it on the canvas, it’s very likely to click on a transparent pixel and to accidentally commit the transformation.
It can be a problem if it was an unfinished complex transformation, as I need to undo it and to start again.
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Another great find - 'opaque areas' during rotation that makes it harder to use now than in previous releases. Forgive Adobe their beta testers went to vacation, all at the same time !
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I agree, this is pure stupidity. Especially when the whole change is added so poorly. You never know which kind of layers does what. Select multiple layers, how will it scale?, vectors, smart objects, fonts, its impossible to get used to how anything behaves. And the amazing thing also is that it change only to a few types of layers, and ONLY in Photoshop. It's either all in or nothing for such a change...I mean who comes up with these ideas? And this was one of the marque features presented at Max 2018. Its not a feature! its just a Keyboard shortcut change for crying out loud, forced upon users! And one single Official response here, which ignores all kinds of arguments laid out and just explains it as new feature, end of discussion...wow...
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Why to release new Photoshop if there is almost no new Photoshop inside? Because people are stupid and they think if something is fresh it's something special so they have to get it!

Adobe killed themselves with this different objects transformation feature. You said something important. If we want to transofrm multiple (different) objects at once how we know should we hold 'shift' or not? Loll the most funniest comedy I was 'watching' ever!
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What is funny are people defending this SHIFT change. We used shift for decades and no one said anything. They change it and suddenly "my finger hurts from pressing shift" I am waiting to see what happens when they change the space bar for the hand tool.
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If you like comedy (well more of drama), you will like this thread about After Effects : https://adobe-video.uservoice.com/forums/911311-after-effects/suggestions/33836305-full-program-mult... Adobe doesn't care anymore about pro users. The important thing for them is to drag a lot of newbies with one click/no skills features. So when it comes to important things like multi-threaded video editing apps for their already paying users, they really doesn't care...
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I don't have time for new series, but thank you for recommendation. I see super heroes of the same universe can not any way beat Adobe - that is lately bad character as well - in their parrarel world ;)
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You also cannot drag a guide from the ruler while in transform. It will confirm the transformation. 


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Mark Payne

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I can't stand the crop tool now. Never needed grid lines, never needed to dim the background. I use marquis and have a crop command now. By the way, SHIFT constrains the marquis. How about that? LOL
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Now that we seem to have a "fix" for this ridiculousness Adobe has foisted upon us, maybe we can move on and actually get work done. Everyone who's still  complaining I urge you to do the PSUserConfig.txt fix listed below and move on. It fixes the crop tool too. Bonus. What I have NOT seen is any official acknowledgement on Adobe's part that they royally screwed this up. The ONLY thing I've seen from our esteemed product manager is to use a modifier key when pulling guides mid transform. If  I were in charge of the Ps division, whoever was responsible for this mess would have been gone yesterday. But if I were in charge, it never would have happened. 
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I was so confident that Adobe would not ever make a change like this that I developed a method of creating a shadow if a layer like a person that could be quickly adjusted and placed anywhere you wanted. It is fast and beautiful.
I paid over $400.00 to have it made into a Photoshop Script.
It is dependent on being able to move the center point to an appropriate pivot position and use the top-center of the DISTORT box to move it where you want it.
At the time, I didn't make it for sale. I did give it to a few people and now, if I want to sell it or give it away, I need 2 sets of instructions so people that want to use with the new version of Photoshop. Even that would be OK if there had been a good reason for the change.
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Kukurykus

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Kind a good solution, just do the job with 'PSUserConfig.txt fix' and move on. Probelm is is we will be silent one day they even won't give alternative. But I agree with everything else in your post.
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I paid over $400.00 to have it made into a Photoshop Script.
Photoshop develeopers make their scripts for all releses starting by CS6 EXTENDED. Why if there is subscription letting us upgrade to newest release, so not like in Creative Suite times everyone got different Photoshop still? Because people don't want to have latest 'FREE' version as there is not only new stuff but often old removed or changed the way they don't like anymore.

We talk here of too small amount of money. I assume milion dollars were involved into new Ps that it could look the way as it is now. So why inconvenient for users? Probably because Macintosh paid Adobe huge sum to favour their own devices. It will make high sale of Apple products becuase their iPads(?) will be recognised as best to work with Photoshop.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Photoshop cc 2019 buggiest version ever.

I have never had a reason to complain about Photoshop but Im wishing I would have kept my 2018 version until  the bugs are worked out. The new command T transform options are not working as advertised, the image size options don't work half of the time, the save options don't work half of the time...as a matter of fact, almost every feature just is not working correctly. One feature or another is freezing up or not working in the middle of every project and is forcing me to restart the application.I honestly don't like the way the updated transform tool works and would like an option to return the tool to its previous form as well. 
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Alexandra Giamanco

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Hi,
I noticed there is an update for photoshop, however, when I click the "What's New" link it takes me to this page: https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/features.html?mv=product&mv2=accc#!
which doesn't seem to have been updated since 2018!
So, how do I know what precisely was updated?

Thank you.
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Hi Alexandra, you can find what issues were addressed here:

https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/kb/fixed-issues.html

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Alexandra Giamanco

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Thank you Rosa. I don't see anything on Free Transform yet, so I don't think I'll update. However, should I update it just because others have experienced these issues? I haven't. TIA
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I've been using PS 2018 alongside PS 2019 but I've kept 2019 updated and since the 20.0.3, I must admit that there have been no other performance issues for me, other than the bothersome Free Transform/Constrain Link issue. I sometimes forget how the tool has changed but other than that all seems to be fine :)
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Alexandra Giamanco

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Ohh ok. I only use CC19 for the new Content Aware now. Thank you, I updated it just so it's updated. 
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What the worst part about this issue for me, is that aside from it being extremely frustrating to adjust to the change, and aside from the fact that Adobe was too stupid to change how it works with other tools, The feature just plain does not work on my Imac at all. Even when I attempt to use the feature as intended, the preview jumps between constrained and unconstrained while flashing between different sizes all within a few seconds of trying to adjust the size, never showing me what the finished size will be. Whenever I click done, it  usually comes out unconstrained even though I was using the tool properly. To make matters worse, when I click outside of the box on the corner to rotate, more often than not it now turns off the transform box thinking I was finished. This "click anywhere to set transformation" stuff is an equal part if this fiasco for me.
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I started a separate thread specifically for a better standard FTUE experience for when defaults are changed. If you think it's important that Adobe address future updates like this before release, go "Me Too" that idea.

"All changes to default behaviors in new releases need option toggles and FTUE blocker dialogs"
https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/all-changes-to-default-behaviors-in-new-relea...
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Thank you for linking to your topic. These Photoshop section forum is so busy for past week that the latest topics I see on main page are just few hours long. So that is not possible to find enough time to browse all of them!
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And please also talk with teams across other CC apps so we get consistency. 

e.g. SHIFT to constrain is such a fundamental change to the way ALL graphics apps work, and changing it requires you to make it CC-wide, announce it properly, and provide a one-click fallback.

Making a fundamental change like this, and the way it's been done, is arrogant. Arrogance breaks commercial trust and we already have more than enough arrogance to deal with in the form of Apple.

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it's not company - customer relation anymore by any means, but more like:

Angry and Arrogant Antique Absolute Autocrats against Amorphous Ants :/

Something like Ancient Grecian Gods versus weak humans with their fate!

We need our Prometheus, and maybe not new Ps, but new Pr application!
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It's a stretch to say the engineers / propellerheads don't use Photoshop at all.

The problem is that they are not professional end-users. They have basic understanding of the software they are coding, enough to dabble, but they are not graphic artists using Photoshop (Illustrator, etc) as a graphics tool, so they don't understand the disruption they cause when they change interface, delete a critical feature (like Artwork Mode in Illustrator 5 back in the 90's), etc.
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> but they are not graphic artists using Photoshop (Illustrator, etc) as a graphics tool>

Probably not, as most of us aren't programmers who understand what it takes to keep this creaky old tub afloat.  But are you saying that those closest to all of us, those engineers and product managers whose job it is to listen to us, haven't been paying attention to our ranting about changes release after release? I can accept that they might not be able to judge accurately the disruption one change will bring versus another, but they do know we're likely going to complain about it.

And if 75% of their reports on "usability" say that Shift to constrain goes against all the other apps out there and disrupts  workflows with people (of whatever skill level)  trying to remember what to do, then they might think they should address it and not continue to be the outlier. Get it over with now and in another version, we'll all be used to it. Of course, I know I still remember things they took away or changed, along with what they've never done at all,  but . . .  '-}

IMO, it would have worked out a bit better if all the Adobe apps adopted the change at the same time, and if there weren't so many inconsistencies, and they even still gave us an opt out box to check — but my opinion is worth what they pay me for it.

I'll still say these engineers and product managers are pretty knowledgeable, and very likely use the software a deal more than we might think.  As long as I've been using the software, some 20 years now, I often get in a rut with the methods I use—after all, I'm trying to get something done and don't always want to take the time to find what might be a better or more efficient method. I don't want to take the time to learn and train my my wee brain and weak muscles to change direction.

And when I'm reading about a problem someone is having, I read an Adobe person giving them a solution that I knew about, but had forgotten or not bothered to fully work through, or didn't realise worked that way at all. I'm learning from them still. So they might indeed think they're doing us a favor when we don't feel it's a favor.

I knew a designer who never had the time to learn to use Curves, but she could find time to pile on Levels adjustments that got her there in the end. It was actually faster to her to be using the least efficient method than time taken to make sense of the most efficient. Most of us, if we're honest, can relate to that on some level. Do we all use Vanishing Point to its fullest potential?
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"IMO, it would have worked out a bit better if all the Adobe apps adopted the change at the same time, and if there weren't so many inconsistencies, and they even still gave us an opt out box to check — but my opinion is worth what they pay me for it."

It'd work out a bit better if someone at Adobe who actually used the program often enough and deep enough or consulted with those who do really thought about WHY they are about to make a sea change in the way certain tools work. So far  I have yet to see a single explanation that passes the smell test - y'know - one that's not from someone linked to Adobe that tells us WHY someone thought this was really a good idea, where it came from and who approved it. When I see Adobe employees defending the indefensible it just reminds me of the presidential press secretary doing the same. 
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Yes, it is how that works. I'm coder too so I do my job, but when that is done I test it so long I know that's perfect. Of course that's me, single person, not a company that have people for every task in the long process. But when I have occasion I engage people who do that for me, who are freaks or everyday users that will do use that was made, and used so far in the previous form if that wasn't avialable yet in other version. Big Adobe could learn much from small, weak companies, but powerful by their profesionalism, as in their case that is be or not to be in the bussines.
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Slower development cycles lead to releasing better, more reliable software.

Enough with this planned-obselescence crap already!
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But. But. But... They have to do SOMETHING with my $53.00 a month that they suck out of my wallet. Before moving to subscription there was some corporate motivation to put out a good product because a crappy release could affect their bottom line. Now there's no reason at all and this is exactly what a lot of people predicted and why so many were so vociferously against subscriptions.
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If 500,000 users go back to cs6 for three months while cancelling their subscriptions will have a HUGE (approx $10mil per mth) impact on their bottom line - I bet we will have an update within the first three weeks with all the 2019 bugs fixed and within the next month all the years old issues attended to.

I am prepared to fire up cs6 tomorrow if neccessary. heck, I still even have cs5 32bit running on windows 7 for times when I need some old plugins.
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I thought the same yestarday, but those users had to still have CS6 (that I stil use only, thoug have buggy newest one). It is generally still the same Photoshop, we could live with. But I think that wouldn't be enohg as CS6 is at bottom of their Ps releases, so we are still stuck to CC program.
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Yep totally agree. It's change for the sake of change and has messed with every single user's muscle memory. Whoever decided this needs a long hard think about what they have done. 

terrible decision. Why not take all the other settings and make them do the complete opposite of what they've done for many years? Sounds like a great idea right!? Nope.


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Kukurykus

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If there was not subscription payment model they would not play with us so easily ;)
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I could not agree with you more. The amount of bandwidth being spent on this topic is stunning. Adobe would have tested, retested, confirmed and turned it inside out before making this kind of change without user input...
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Today elapsed exactly 2 weeks you started this theard. It gives over 3 users per day unliking Adobe decision. This two weeks more would be sufficient also to find by testers most shocking truth how badly it affects everyday work in Photoshop since even if someone may be fine with new way of free / proportional transform it exploited about six bugs you find reading just this one theard refered to only one over 20 years working well behaviour before last mistaken release!
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